alliances, FW's, raze kills and other stuff

[Luc]

I play for fun, and you don't represent me. I want raze because I thought the game was so boring when it destroyed buildings that I took a break until they fixed it again (many of my friends quit completely instead). My KD ended well outside the top 100 last age.

Drop the arrogance already

[KuhaN]

I play for fun, and you don't represent me. I want raze because I thought the game was so boring when it destroyed buildings that I took a break until they fixed it again. My KD ended well outside the top 100 last age.

Drop the arrogance already

I never said I wanted raze to destroy buildings or land, that was not my argument.

[Realest]

Well the thing is, for all you top kd whores, you rarely war because you'd rather whore all round and then think you're godlike when you hit top 10 in the charts after all the abuse and boredom throughout the round.

I'm representing the majority of players, not the X amount IRC users, the 8k other players that play for fun. You think they really give a shat about abs kingdoms? No, they want to war. Why? Because it is fun.

Warring > Whoring.

Realest and Steel, how many wars did you guys have this round? Umm... about one? You guys shouldn't even be sharing your opinions on whether or not raze should destroy land/buildings because you aren't representing the entire Utopian community.

You war because of grudges; the majority war for random fun.



oh and that^ pretty much backs up what i just said.

I had 2 wars last age, thank you very much, and razed in neither of them.

** Summary **
&& Total Attacks Made: 208 (36,244 acres)
&& -- Traditional March: 195 (36,156 acres)
&& -- Conquest: 4 (88 acres)
&& -- Ambush: 4 (542 acres)
&& -- Failed Attacks: 5 (2.4% failure)
!!! Total Attacks Suffered: 187 (26,970 acres)
!!! -- Traditional March: 176 (26,970 acres)
!!! -- Ambush: 1 (228 acres)
!!! -- Failed Attacks: 10 (5.3% failure)
$$ Aid packets sent: 265




** Summary **
&& Total Attacks Made: 250 (37,889 acres)
&& -- Traditional March: 240 (37,758 acres)
&& -- Conquest: 2 (131 acres)
&& -- Ambush: 4 (616 acres)
&& -- Failed Attacks: 4 (1.6% failure)
!!! Total Attacks Suffered: 218 (24,934 acres)
!!! -- Traditional March: 186 (24,327 acres)
!!! -- Ambush: 2 (185 acres)
!!! -- Raze: 26 (607 acres)
!!! -- Failed Attacks: 4 (1.8% failure)
$$ Aid packets sent: 1

[Nuriho]

37k acres to 25k acres. sounds like how most wars will be with the raze destroys buildings -not fun.

having the war to be who outhits more doesn't seem to add depth to the game, it makes it rather shallow.

[MorbidAngel]

Give me a paper instead of claims, and I might reconsider your views.

&& Total Attacks Made: 293 (15,910 acres)
&& -- Traditional March: 103 (15,910 acres)
&& -- Ambush: 3 (402 acres)
&& -- Raze: 183 (8,672 acres)
&& -- Failed Attacks: 4 (1.4% failure)
!!! Total Attacks Suffered: 215 (22,131 acres)
!!! -- Traditional March: 54 (9,226 acres)
!!! -- Ambush: 1 (79 acres)
!!! -- Raze: 150 (12,905 acres)
!!! -- Failed Attacks: 10 (4.7% failure)

** Enemy Kingdom () Gains/Losses **
Overall Losses: -17,067 acres.

We were negative too, but not even close, esp after taking out hits done by zz and rage..

[Realest]

37k acres to 25k acres. sounds like how most wars will be with the raze destroys buildings -not fun.

having the war to be who outhits more doesn't seem to add depth to the game, it makes it rather shallow.

look at the hits, does it look like we outhit absurdly? Did we raze?

It's not as clear cut as you think it is when it comes to raze. Its a tactical choice and its about knowing when to make it. Please leave top level mechanics to those who understand it and stop making wrong assumptions.

[MorbidAngel]

He said all wars will be like that with raze destroying buildings and not acres

[Realest]

thats not true either, lol, ****. You can't just generalize how wars would work

[Luc]

I heard Realest goes on vacation when his kd wars, because he hates hurting people

[Sweetiepie]

The main problem is that while Trad, Massacre and other attacks are NW- related, raze isn't.
A 300 K NW prov Quadripling a 80 k NW prov razes 10% of the acres away at every hit.

I saw a "brave" 240 K oponent T/M's triple-tapping a 28 k lad of mine and destroying 25% of his remaining acres. Fun you say? Nope, just silly imho...

(Speaking from the lower mid that has now turned into a ghetto) +1

And even when I have to order it, +1

It's a gamespoiler imo.

[Realest]

I heard Realest goes on vacation when his kd wars, because he hates hurting people

lies, im top active!

[_greenie]

Well the thing is, for all you top kd whores, you rarely war because you'd rather whore all round and then think you're godlike when you hit top 10 in the charts after all the abuse and boredom throughout the round.

I'm representing the majority of players, not the X amount IRC users, the 8k other players that play for fun. You think they really give a shat about abs kingdoms? No, they want to war. Why? Because it is fun.

Warring > Whoring.

Realest and Steel, how many wars did you guys have this round? Umm... about one? You guys shouldn't even be sharing your opinions on whether or not raze should destroy land/buildings because you aren't representing the entire Utopian community.

You war because of grudges; the majority war for random fun.



oh and that^ pretty much backs up what i just said.

just out of curiousity

what would you say is an "average" number of wars for a ghetto kd?

back in my ghetto days, we had ~4-5 wars an age

this age, secrets had 4 wars, at least as many hostiles that ended in CF's, 2 FW's and still finished 12-13th in the world

and by your own logic, ghetto players shouldnt post their opinions cause they dont represent the entire utopian community either...

[utopiagod]

Yes, there are fewer wars nowadays - and there are fewer KD's to war. That means there aren't as many within a decent size to war, and it seems many KD's just aren't interested in war.

I remember when we would have at least a dozen wars per age, often more. Now it's hard to get 3-4 wars in an age.

[DHaran]

That's another thing you idiots don't understand. When you play in a ghetto, in ghetto ranges, there are pretty much endless targets available to you. On the charts, there's pretty much a few ahead of you and few behind you, and the NW spread is likely large, and some of them are likely in hostiles or war already. You also spend too much time looking at a stupid number on the kd page. Like _greenie said, our kd page showed 4 wars, but double that when you factor in other hostiles. Most chart conflicts never go to war, but there sure as **** is action, and you ignorant tards talking smack about the "whoring" kds don't have a clue about it.

[utopiagod]

Who said anything about playing in a ghetto, DHaran?