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    Quote Originally Posted by confusionlord View Post
    Neither of these servers are making any money, they are both just staying afloat through advertising.
    Wrong. Utopia isn't being advertised.

    Your best shot at obtaining Utopia would be if they were going to shut down both Utopia and fake utopia.

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    Wrong. Utopia isn't being advertised.
    Read much? He aint saying Utopia is being advertised, hes saying there is advertising in utopia and that way they collect money to keep it afloat.

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    Even Dylan said that in-game advertising as a money generating stream was ftl
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    How about some drastical moves, like:
    1) Make a larger pool of races (12 is a 'round' number including the famous Faery and Undead... this means creating 2 new ones)
    2) Elect each age 8 of them may be played. The 8 are chosen by the following principle: keeping top 5-6 most popular from last age and swapping the other 2-3 with ones from the remaining pool
    3) The same for personalities... have a pool of 12, playing 8 and swapping each age at least 2 of them.
    4) Put some thought into decreasing the number of races/personalities and also forum/game polling bringing into the game one particular race/pers for the following age.
    5) Make dynamic building and training in wars (some buildings may be built faster/instant, as for training/converting some military troops)... use your imagination
    6) Smoothen honor gains to take into account honor difference in the same way NW difference is today. Add more honor titles (eg: from viscount downwards make twice as many titles with only +1% bonuses, or 0.5%), maybe even add some sort of conjuctural protection for higher titles. Boring Knight/Peasant titles are not for good players obviously but the majority of the utopian players are knights or peasants. You should address some changes to theese individuals also.
    7) Ability to choose some resources/starting strat for start of age.
    8) Getting more ppl in the game can be done as in the past by the voice of the current players... inviting friends to play and so on. It's a powerfull tool, but the game needs to make it natural.
    9) Open a new server with 4 week ages starting with more acres, lots of resources and pre-age ability to choose pump strat(like sci credits, training credits or combinations), 15 province kingdoms. This can be fun for new players (newbie playground) and at age end top kingdoms can be moved to WoL. This can be interesting for trying new races/pers or modifications.

    I'll be back :)

    Thanks!

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    and who do you think will implement all these changes over a 2-3 day period between ages with no major issues ?
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    It is clear I am the best player in the game. I just need a kingdom that will fallow me and take my order. When that happens we can't lose.

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    I still believe that integrating a more social networking site element to the game would be tremendously appealing to a much larger element with out dramatically changing game dynamics.
    ie... kingdom pages, province/player pages, chats,etc...
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    But then again it would still entail faith in the future possibility of the game and an influx of money. As currently they are still have some issue with keeping the game and the forums up to modern operating standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlymad View Post
    and who do you think will implement all these changes over a 2-3 day period between ages with no major issues ?
    Clearly you don't really know how app releases work.
    Applying a change is not really the big issue.. it's just a small part of a whole cycle.

    The question is in fact that if all of the following can converge to a decision to make the changes: work force, knoledge, engagement, time available, cost, oportunity/risk factors, etc.
    If you really need to make drastic changes in order to revive the game then owner and devs have to make the commitment and the plan to do so.

    Freshness is wht is needed and dynamics... socializing alone will not do the work, maybe just for a small period of time.

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    And clearly your new here and dont know how well the programming and changes work here .
    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    It is clear I am the best player in the game. I just need a kingdom that will fallow me and take my order. When that happens we can't lose.

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    Don't start with what one can NOT do but what one CAN do. Is the worst approach possible.
    I've been in this game long enough so i'm not a newbie, just didn't post in forums. And to set things from the beginning i'm a chief solution architect in a big telekom company working to accommodate many projects and integrating solutions for about 25 apps so i thinks i know what i am talking about. I've seen this attitude and it's not positive. The only way to get out of this downward spiral is to invest in smart and perceptible changes. For every project there's a plan... nicely said but hard to make it right and keep it right (that's a big issue). From my perspective this is a management problem more than a programming problem.
    Thinking out of the box might make the milestones possible... just a thought: what if testing was done in an environment involving some voluteers, or better even for SITs or alpha testing. Maybe is not the best example but the meaning is that for every problem there is more than one view and more than one solution.
    I bet that there are many ppl who would love to help if they get the opportunity... even if it's just as brainstorming.

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    Coming up with ideas is great and all, and everyone knows this game needs a change. The simple fact is, that if the game developer isn't willing to take the time and risk of changing the game into what it needs to grow into to survive, the game won't survive. There is a good skeleton here for a game, it needs some meat on the bones though. This game started off being ahead of online gaming and is now far behind, as people have incorporated what was good in it and profited on it. However, the game still has some unique features that define it from the rest. That's the only reason this game is worth changing and making it better.

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    RMO what you do in RL has 0 to do with what the programmers here are not only capable of doing but willing to do.This game has been in Alpha for over 2 years. welcome to the world of utopia. WE ARE THE VOLUNTEER TESTERS.
    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    It is clear I am the best player in the game. I just need a kingdom that will fallow me and take my order. When that happens we can't lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlymad View Post
    RMO what you do in RL has 0 to do with what the programmers here are not only capable of doing but willing to do.This game has been in Alpha for over 2 years. welcome to the world of utopia. WE ARE THE VOLUNTEER TESTERS.
    If you think this game is still in something you would label alpha, then you don't really have a clue what alpha means.

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    Alpha ,Beta either one it isnt fully functional.were still testers and you know that.
    Quote Originally Posted by vines View Post
    It is clear I am the best player in the game. I just need a kingdom that will fallow me and take my order. When that happens we can't lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confusionlord View Post
    No I don't have a Master's in software engineering, still working on my associates in software application programming. I have a 4.0 right now, am employed in my field, and am half done with the classes I need for my degree. I plan to start my own game development company once I have my degree, and think this game would be a great step in the right direction.
    Or you could just create your own game from scratch.

    Not for the faint of heart, but it is certainly doable if you are an imaginative individual.

    If you fresh from univ, the technologies are a pain though. It helps when you have related experience (some web development).

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