An honest discussion about the use of Homes

[gojete]

Dont be a hater dharan.. I am sorry to tell you that if you have never tried a 100% houses 1000 acres province with 4 raw tpa 4 raw wpa 60 dpa army out and 145 opa , you shouldnt be speaking that much, just because you dont believe its possible to have unlimited millions and provinces with 35000 elites at 1000 acres it doesnt mean its not possible.

I dont mean disrespect to you or any of the new or old players who have been playing this for years and have not abandoned the game after everything that has probably happened. But dont go around saying that i am a troll just because i know things that you playing this game for years have never thought about.

Dont mind my craziness in the forums either. I just dont have that fear that many of you have. Im not scared of watching my province chained, i dont care about losing wars, it does not really matter at all.

How do you think i found out that i could make 10 millions a day? I tried. And it worked.
Just like i want to try the 1000 acres province with 100% homes.
or the 100% dungeons one
I wanted to make a 30% dungeons 30% homes 30% libraries 10% guilds one too.

Have you tried any of this, or will you just go and say " it does not work", thats just stupid

Has anyone here ever tried running a 0 peasants province?

I can understand why you think it doesnt work,i see how it will fail if i think like you, thats why i dont think like you, crap i dont even think at all , i just get it done.
Either way talk is cheap, i wont talk more about this anymore unless i have the 1000 province made with real results.

In any case remember that the multi million strategy is called OGT BANKING, that is because i am OGT and its my strats, and i call it OGT banking. If you want to know how to do it send me 100 euros . I can see how a 5 million nw kingdom could use someone making 10 million gc per day

All of you who have a 5 to 7 million kingdom, tell me you wouldnt like a province making 9 millions per day.

Of course with the coward rules and naps and diplo. MAybe no one wars you because you send them dragon after dragon. You might become so powerful that an alliance will probably take you down just out of jealousy. In the end , now that this strat is out in the public, it wont take long until everyone starts doing it. Just remember , ogt was the first .

[DHaran]

You aren't even a convincing troll. At least vines in the early stages seemed like a dolt who actually thought his crazy **** would work. You are just a tool who thinks he can bait me into the same kind of arguments I had with vines like 3 years ago. Well you aren't. Fools like you should be insta-banned, either for pure stupidity or simply for being a troll and trying to mislead people, I don't care which.

[Palem]

It's true.

Vines > gojete

[DHaran]

VT2 likes to take credit for being vines, but I don't buy it. I don't think VT2 has the intellect or will power to hold that character for as long as it did. Until he proves otherwise I'll continue to think he is taking credit for someone else's trolling leetness. At the same time I also know vines account has switched hands at least twice, or the owner got incredibly lazy in maintaining the nuances of the character's typing and grammar consistencies.

All that being said, this gojete person is saying **** dumb enough where I can absolutely believe it is VT2. And these trolls started showing up right when VT2 started posting again.

[Bishop]

play nicely please.

[DHaran]

Bishop you have to agree something needs to be done about blatant trolling. This is a dying game, and if nothing else this forum has been getting at least some nub presence (the good kind) as of late. They need REAL answers, not this crap.

[gojete]

I take no offense i know that i am controvertial I wrote a very long reply, i would like to send it to bishop before i post it to see if theres anything wrong with it. I dont want to cause hard feelings, im not vines , and i understand why you feal threatened

[DHaran]

There is nothing controversial about your level of idiocy.

[gojete]

I would like to start by saying that , id like this to feel like we are having a beer at the bar among friends, with friendly feelings , just having a conversation, which while serious, it shouldnt feel wrong or bad or negative. Lets just speak as if we was friends. Now im not vines, or anyone you probably know, im just someone else playing the game and finding new things that i have not seen anyone else do or try.
I dont give you my location because im scared that because you dont like me or fear me you might get my kd chained, im responsable for 17 other souls apart from mine.


I quit utopia when it was at its peak, and just came back in the end of last age, finding a completely different game where most people still play the same old way, unflexible and hardheaded. Decadent ways.


Ok its like this, i have a strategy that i can make 9 millions per day or more. I dont even need to wait weeks or months in order to change build strat.I can have unlimited money, change buildings and troops overnight. I can test anything.

This means that i can completely switch my buildings and army over a night.

I can move soldiers from elites to thieves to off specs, to def specs. I can raze and rebuild all my buildings in the 10 days it takes with accelerated construction and builders boom.Training times reduced with accelerated training and inspire army.

My only limitations are the wpa and filling up dungeons.

I understand why this is threatening to you;

Utopia is a truth representation of how the world works.

Imagine that utopia was for real, and you are a decadent person that has been playing and doing things the same way for years or decades, just like most old players are, top kd players feeling proud and all knowing...feeling so important, feeling like the best.
. Somehow out of nowhere , a guy comes and tells you, hey, what you are doing is just stupid, you need not be like this!

What do you think would happen?, you who feels is superior , who gets confidence out of belonging a top kingdom or alliance, you hear this thing, everything you know falls apart, in the beginning you will of course not believe it and regard it as stupid, until you see it done.

Once you see how its done, you will say " how did i not see it!", "how did i not come up with it myself, i thought i was so good, i thought i knew everything"

What do you think would happen to me if this was the real world, maybe you would be scared of the big change this would mean, and kill me, or kidnap me, or take the credit for yourself in order to become famous.

I know that you dont believe this things can be done, because you have never tried them yourself.

Im not going to tell you how to do it just yet. It would be nicer if you realized that , in order to get the answer, you have to let go your ego, forget everything you know, and start all over again, as to unblind your eyes and see things in a completely new way. The reason of why you have not found it out by yourself, is because of the large ammount of prejudices and beliefs that you carry around . You see things through this eyeglasses and filters, making it impossible to see things as they are.

Anyway, i know that the things i have found out about the game can completely unbalance the game, and change things as they are.
But maybe the people that rewrote the code already know all of this, and make it possible so that people didnt have to wait weeks to try a strat. No longer do you have to wait until next age to try something different, you can do it overnight.

Some of you out there, probably think that you are very open minded and so on, creative even,
I ask you the question
, do you really think that you are that open minded and creative after this?

[gojete]

Bishop you have to agree something needs to be done about blatant trolling. This is a dying game, and if nothing else this forum has been getting at least some nub presence (the good kind) as of late. They need REAL answers, not this crap.

I dont want the game to die either, but you need to give up your old ways and regenerate the way of playing, i already told you that all top kingdom players should defect and lead the ghettos . As it is right now, everyone is too scared of going to wars, or using dragons. Everyone is just too freaking chicken , everyone is scared of losing a war , or getting their provinces razed.

The game will grow and multiply from the bottom not from the top, is it the top that is decadent , all top kingdoms and alliances are a remanent of ancient glories, you have to slain the dragons and give birth to a new age.
Quit your top kds and lead the ghettos into wars, no alliances for 1 age, every kingdom for itself. A new age.

[gojete]

I also wanted to join the forums since last age but it was very hard to almost impossible to create an account. I tried making an account around 8 times before i could make it here, i am stupid as you say, so making an account should be easy and stupid proof, im 100% sure that , because its so hard to make an account that keeps more people from joining

[Palem]

*sigh*, he's getting annoying.

[DHaran]

I quit utopia when it was at its peak, and just came back in the end of last age, finding a completely different game where most people still play the same old way, unflexible and hardheaded. Decadent ways.

I stopped reading right there, since I know the game is nothing like it was at it's peak. The strategic philosophies are pretty much polar opposites, the natural game evolution has changed far too much in Utopia for that statement to hold true.

So it still remains, you are either a troll, or a completely hopeless player. Either way you should stop posting where people want real advice.

[Dragons Mate]

DHaran, you're feeding the troll...


Oh, and gojete, if you produce an SoT of your working 1K acre prov with 100% homes, 100% banks, or any of the other stupid strat's you claim to master, we'll actually take you seriously!

[Palem]

He's a troll for 2 reasons.

1. He says he has unlimited money.
2. He says he's ran a 0 pezzy prov.