Originally Posted by
Humanoize
I don't understand all the fuzz about this discussion. I feel we are at the point everybody gave his opinion about chastity being overpowered or not. Just relax and share good arguments, instead of giving irritated responses. Man, there is more tension in this topic then there was in my failed marriage :). My opinion is that chastity is not overpowered. I want to share my opinion explaining which kind of players chastity hurts to and to which players it doesnt. Also I d like to give my opinion if the effects of chastity would be gone if they spell didnt even exist.
pure attacker:
chastity can be a pain in the ass. In my opinion only when peasants are heavily reduced due to ops/attacks. They can not really do much about it because pure attackers lack the TPA to do effective kidnapping. A side effect of being a full attacker is that most likely your WPA is low. if a A/m or T/M can spare some mana and you catch a long chastity at the begin of it's duration it could be worth to MV it off, although on a high rune cost. More importantly is that heavy attackers do traditional marches during war. Every succesfull TM rewards a significant amount of peasants when underpopulated. So they still have ways to increase their PPA. Although I totally agree with the people opposing chastity as spell that it is a pain in the ass. But more then fireballing, MS, NS, KN, riots, greed, prop, PF, NM? I don't think so.
A/M:
your wpa is supposed to be high enough to prevent chastity spamming on your province from those random undeads. Only faeries and undead/mystics should be able to get it on you. the mana of a mystic is very valuable. if he/she is using(wasting) it on you to keep 24/7 chastity on you as A/M I wouldn't mind at all. There are far worse things a mystic's mana can do to your kingdom compared to keep CHA on A/M's.
A/T:
I play human/rogue this age. my wizards are one of the most awfull in the world. Last war I have been fireballed to 1-2 PPA and received non stop chastity cover. Kidnappings are the key for an A/T. Just for the fun of it I kidnapped the guy who kept me chastity covered and fireballed me. He ended up with less peasants then me. Just a few kidnappings are enough to make a full FB/CHA run useless. for 20% stealth you can kidnap back to at least 7-8 PPA. if he decides to waste his mana again on a fireball run / cha coverage you keep doing the same. if you can afford to KN its a very effective counter to peasant control.
T/M:
they dont have to worry about chastity at all. they are hard to peasant control with ops. Hard to cast chastity on and even if they get peasant controlled they can kidnap it back.
My conclusion:
Pure attackers are the most affected by chastity, still MV on them is relatively easy, especially the races with a magic penalty. With or without chastity, they are the players who always end up being peasant controlled. If chastity gets heavily nerved we are gonna see more elves overdoing the FB's in combination with storms to the point regeneration is gonna take days. This would result in the same effect people are complaining about now. A/M's are harder to peasant control due to their protection from fireballs, still KN/massacre followed by chastity can hurt them. Although to their protection against magic they are protected from 'spamming chast' from non a/m hybrids. Imo if still a spells comes trough the wasted mana to fails and the short duration make it worth it. finally both A/t's and T/M's have the perfect counter to chastity; kidnapping.
So Humanoize is it overpowered? "NO!" :)
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