There are a crapload of different strategies, ghettos, top, warring, whoring, honor, whatever. I don't want everyone to play just like me, there are strategies that I don't like to use that sure as **** work just fine. What we are telling you is that simply because you survive in a ghetto (though you can't even do that, Mr. PK) doesn't mean you have a good strategy. It's that simple.Originally Posted by gojete
Bah, feeding the troll again, someone slap me.
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you could have played the game for 15 years for all i care, ive won tournaments in warfcraft, age of empires, starcraft , command and conquer and other highly competitive games.
You want to impress me with your education , your merits, your calculations, this game is for fun fools, if you want competition play a real game , this is for fun.
I test my strategies against kds that are similar than mine, i like playin in the ghetto . I rather have the possibility to war against 300 kds than the same 5 kds you all war every age, 10 years warrying the same damn people, no wonder why you are all bitter and grumpy.
Last edited by gojete; 05-08-2011 at 19:33.
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
I have beaten more kingdoms than you have ever even attacked.
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high homes makes ppl be able to build their province very fast and with good numbers, and allows ppl to war very often not fearing slow recovery times, and it allows players to have fun with the game not needing to wait several ages to learn the game.
You seem to want everyone to "deserve" having fun, by spending several ages learning, and stuff.
I rather have fun right away, and be able to war right away, and high homes and the war strats i developed did just that, 15 damn war wins in a row. as a monarch, in 3 different ages, to me thats having fun . And whoever hasnt win wars and has a crappy province after a few ages, i encourage to to try high homes and other of my strats , because its very easy to do and it works in the ghetto where 80% of the ppl in utopia play.
I war against ppl that are in ghettos like me, and i have fun, and im sure ppl in the kds ive been at had a lot of fun too.
I understand your points and motives, you have been brainwashed to crave and to want more and to try to achieve, and then you translate all your real life stuff into a computer game that is supposed to get you relaxed from real life.
You translate achieving and being better, into trying to gain on charts and stuff, and so on and whatever, i play this game for fun, i have fun warrying ghettos like me, you wanna kill me for that go ahead, hate me, im beautiful, " goes look himself on the mirror again " .
Yeah im still beautiful . Anyway, I dont think your way of playing is bad at all. Again i understand your motives, ive been the best too in some games.
But listen , you want me to war you, i dont have a kd, im not the monarch anymore, i switched kds to a new one, and we are learning new things and warrying already from oop.
You want me to war your 25 provinces kds to prove what? that your ppl that log in twice a day can destsroy my ghetto ? dude really.
Youre just on an ego trip here. My strats are awesome for the ghetto. And in the ghetto one can try many builds and its fun stuff, if the only way you can get fun from this game is to belong to a 5% of players that only war each other every age, go a head, again i like warrying against many different ppl and having fun sending messages, and the crap talk in the war forums and the hate and the love and the burning and the speeches and all that crap.
Your game is to be logged on in mirc 24/7 , sure, i dont like mirc, i dont think ghettos need anything else other than angel and the game to have fun.
I like ultima and the firefox add ons myself , but really , you guys have to get back in your hole,crawl back into your deep holes , go back to your mirc and stop flamming high homes , go play with your ppl that you have met for 10 years, i like knowing and meeting new ppl everyday
Im sorry that no one wants to get as good as you, im sorry that most players namely 80% live in ghettos out of your reach, im sorry no one wants to join your 25ppl kds and im sorry most ppl dont want to use mirc and chat with you all day, and play with you and against your super kds, im really sorry, I wish you found more ppl to play with that the same old farts youve been warrying for 15 years .
Last edited by gojete; 05-08-2011 at 20:02.
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
WRONG!
High homes is a slow process. First you build the homes, then you wait for your pop to fill, then you draft that pop, then you train that pop.
WRONG!You seem to want everyone to "deserve" having fun, by spending several ages learning, and stuff.
Everyone should have fun. You want to play with high homes because it's fun for you? Cool. Don't call it a good strategy.
I have fun on Civ IV by not training any military units and trying to win the game as a pacifist, that doesn't mean it's a good strategy.
WRONG!I rather have fun right away, and be able to war right away, and high homes and the war strats i developed did just that, 15 damn war wins in a row. as a monarch, in 3 different ages, to me thats having fun . And whoever hasnt win wars and has a crappy province after a few ages, i encourage to to try high homes and other of my strats , because its very easy to do and it works in the ghetto where 80% of the ppl in utopia play.
As I've already said, high homes is a slow process.
Also, don't talk about people running crappy provs. You're at 423 acres, ~48k nw. You're running a crappy prov.
WRONG!I understand your points and motives, you have been brainwashed to crave and to want more and to try to achieve, and then you translate all your real life stuff into a computer game that is supposed to get you relaxed from real life.
I want people to be getting good advice.
WRONG!You translate achieving and being better, into trying to gain on charts and stuff, and so on and whatever, i play this game for fun, i have fun warrying ghettos like me, you wanna kill me for that go ahead, hate me, im beautiful, " goes look himself on the mirror again " .
Good kds float to the top. It just happens. Bodega certainly doesn't try to get on the charts and they have fun warring kds. They are just good at the game.
WRONG!But listen , you want me to war you, i dont have a kd, im not the monarch anymore, i switched kds to a new one, and we are learning new things and warrying already from oop.
You want me to war your 25 provinces kds to prove what? that your ppl that log in twice a day can destsroy my ghetto ? dude really.
I don't want to war you.
I don't have 25 provs.
What I would like is for you to get chained. You claimed that what I outlined in the first post isn't real and wouldn't actually happen. I would love to show that it does.
WRONG!Youre just on an ego trip here. My strats are awesome for the ghetto. And in the ghetto one can try many builds and its fun stuff, if the only way you can get fun from this game is to belong to a 5% of players that only war each other every age, go a head, again i like warrying against many different ppl and having fun sending messages, and the crap talk in the war forums and the hate and the love and the burning and the speeches and all that crap.
I have fun warring. I'm not in the top 5%. I'm not in the top 10%. And I love warring all kinds of kds.
WRONG!Your game is to be logged on in mirc 24/7 , sure, i dont like mirc, i dont think ghettos need anything else other than angel and the game to have fun.
I like ultima and the firefox add ons myself , but really , you guys have to get back in your hole,crawl back into your deep holes , go back to your mirc and stop flamming high homes , go play with your ppl that you have met for 10 years, i like knowing and meeting new ppl everyday
I hardly ever get in IRC, and I certainly don't idle there.
Oddly, no one said anything about IRC or it's use here in the 258 posts before yours.
WRONG!Im sorry that no one wants to get as good as you, im sorry that most players namely 80% live in ghettos out of your reach, im sorry no one wants to join your 25ppl kds and im sorry most ppl dont want to use mirc and chat with you all day, and play with you and against your super kds, im really sorry, I wish you found more ppl to play with that the same old farts youve been warrying for 15 years .
I'm not in a 25 person kd
I'm not in a top kd
I'm not on IRC all day
I'm not that good of a player
I'm not old
It's hard to have a more inaccurate post than that one.
1st wrong
Lol palem you dont first build the homes, theres different ways to play high homes, some ppl build them slowly and found good results,
I myself have tested building 45% homes right away, then 20% arms and 20% banks 10% guilds and some farms to pump military.
One should try not to have more peasants than there are jobs, as to have the max income .
high homes is not a low process.
2nd wrong
dude the strategy worked many times in many wars and out of war in the ghetto, when are you going to stop calling it a bad strat if it works great
And why do you have to keep doing analogies with real life or other games, utopia has no comparison.
I havent played civilization , or did i ? is it the game where one does a lot of diplo with the computer and single player mostly?
Dude play a real game
http://ageofempiresonline.com/
3rd wrong
high homes is not a slow process unless you do it very wrong, you have very good income and very good BE and you can train your army very fast and all that
4rd wrong
what you call good advise depends on your personal beliefs and experiences in life, and what you have been brought up with since childhood .
5th wrong
yes they are good because they are good whatever . Most ppl dont like all using the same race and personality, and most kds have ppl log in once a day, some more some less often and stuff.
To compete against what you call " good kds" then you need another " good kd" with ppl dropping attacks at the same time, and having amazing coordination and all that crap.
As you can see, since theres very few 25ppl kds , most ppl dont care about this kind of stuff.
This is why my strat is very good , because the ghetto player can have great fun without having the need to belong in a 25 ppl kd
6th wrong
you are assuming that i have a lot of peasants, i mostly have army and thieves and mages all the time, my draft is normaly at 85% when im done with my province , you ar assuming that i will have so many peasants that i will overpop, even if i realease army and stuff, and die.
You are assuming too many things that you dont know about.
7th wrong
good for you punk
8th wrong
good for you too punk
9th wrong
good for you punk, i see that you are in an ego trip, since everytime i write "you" you assume its "palem" instead.
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
Still waiting on that loc gojete.
Man, Im starting to consider this...
"There's no Knowledge that's not Power."
My issue is not with the argument but with an action that he took but shouldn't have.
As I said before, he made this personal, and any consequences that befall him are his own fault.
Retired at one time but no longer retired.
Thank you for proving that you don't have the slightest understanding of what I'm saying. It's the high draft % that causes massive damage on overpop, not having a high number of pezzies. A lower draft % will recover faster.
Thank you for proving that you don't have the slightest understanding of what I'm saying. It's the high draft % that causes massive damage on overpop, not having a high number of pezzies. A lower draft % will recover faster.
Lolz, well i have died many times, last age i even spent 50 dollars buying credits to reinvite me and other ppl who got killed ,and invite active ppl and paid for a lot of persons sit their province, Not like 50 bucks is that much over here anyway.
Then again my favorite game is doing a relaunch and about to come out this month, this is real strategy game, not for fun like utopia
http://ageofempiresonline.com/
If you do kill me youll just make me a favor ill go buy their game instead lol
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
LOL ordray at this rate your gonna kill me next year , you better order your whole kd to do the job your province will never make lol, even if you hit me everyday at this rate youll never do it yourself, lol
January 6 of YR2 Forces from BOL Ordray () came through and ravaged our lands! Their armies destroyed 21 acres of our land! We lost 338 soldiers, 56 Axemen and 4 Berserkers in this battle.
January 6 of YR2 Forces from BOL Ordray () came through and ravaged our lands! Their armies destroyed 17 acres of our land! We lost 242 soldiers, 40 Axemen and 3 Berserkers in this battle.
January 6 of YR2 Forces from BOL Ordray () came through and ravaged our lands! Their armies destroyed 15 acres of our land! We lost 159 soldiers, 34 Axemen and 2 Berserkers in this battle.
January 6 of YR2 Forces from BOL Ordray () came through and ravaged our lands! Their armies destroyed 15 acres of our land! We lost 148 soldiers, 31 Axemen and 2 Berserkers in this battle.
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
I'll ignore the various grammatical errors and force myself to respond to this entire post for Palem.
You just said that "...some ppl build them slowly and found good results..." and then in second paragraph after that one said that it is "...not a low process." Which is it? Is it a slowly phased in strategy, or is it not?
Also, if you build it all at one time, if I'm building from my military/science pump build into a war build after I have my province fully drafted and trained, then I can be at full power in 14 hours. Someone who adds more homes will be at full strength in 14 hours + however long it takes to get the pop in and to train the extra soldiers that you're planning to run. That in and of itself makes it slower.
YOU are the one who was stating before that since you had so much experience playing C&C, AoE, and various other strategy games, that you had a good idea of what a good strategy in Utopia would be! Do I need to go back and look that post up for you and quote it for you? I can.2nd wrong
dude the strategy worked many times in many wars and out of war in the ghetto, when are you going to stop calling it a bad strat if it works great
And why do you have to keep doing analogies with real life or other games, utopia has no comparison.
I havent played civilization , or did i ? is it the game where one does a lot of diplo with the computer and single player mostly?
Dude play a real game
http://ageofempiresonline.com/
And, dude, are you kidding me? You chose the crappiest knockoff AOE game to challenge someone to? Really? Why not AoE 2? That one was by far the best of the trilogy (I don't count EP as separate games and AoE:O doesn't deserve to be counted among such sublime games as those.)
You can achieve that income with a lower BE in less time while maintaining other benefits from other buildings.3rd wrong
high homes is not a slow process unless you do it very wrong, you have very good income and very good BE and you can train your army very fast and all that
Whether or not something has been ingrained into us since childhood is irrelevant. Bad advice is bad advice. Telling someone to eat rat poison is bad advice. Telling someone that it is okay to try to breathe under water is bad advice.4rd wrong
what you call good advise depends on your personal beliefs and experiences in life, and what you have been brought up with since childhood .
Telling someone that they should run high homes because it is better than the alternatives is bad advice.
Palem's KD doesn't run all the same race and they don't have 25 people, so double fail here.5th wrong
yes they are good because they are good whatever . Most ppl dont like all using the same race and personality, and most kds have ppl log in once a day, some more some less often and stuff.
To compete against what you call " good kds" then you need another " good kd" with ppl dropping attacks at the same time, and having amazing coordination and all that crap.
As you can see, since theres very few 25ppl kds , most ppl dont care about this kind of stuff.
This is why my strat is very good , because the ghetto player can have great fun without having the need to belong in a 25 ppl kd
Running the extra pop as peasants is actually better than running them with an 85% draft. Your larger attacking force means that you have less population at home to release/lose and therefore are more vulnerable to extreme overpopulation and PKs.6th wrong
you are assuming that i have a lot of peasants, i mostly have army and thieves and mages all the time, my draft is normaly at 85% when im done with my province , you ar assuming that i will have so many peasants that i will overpop, even if i realease army and stuff, and die.
You are assuming too many things that you dont know about.
When the main people debating with you are Palem and myself, then who are we supposed to assume that you mean when you say "you"?7th wrong
good for you punk
8th wrong
good for you too punk
9th wrong
good for you punk, i see that you are in an ego trip, since everytime i write "you" you assume its "palem" instead.
And I see that you are resorting to calling him a punk since you have no better rebuttal to his points. Good job.
Oh and...
/me slaps DHaran with an albino trout.
Retired at one time but no longer retired.
target sharing = ban
Last edited by Bishop; 05-08-2011 at 23:22.
- Get the best out of your gameplay, go 45% homes minimum .
-Successfully tested over 13 war wins in a row and many that number of non war conflicts .
7 out f 7 war wins age 50 guarantees.
High homes = good
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