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    Quote Originally Posted by DDodge View Post
    i have never considered merchant as a viable personality for a "warring kingdom". (think ghetto wars)
    It depends on your goals.

    At securing war wins in long wars, it is the only personality that will be successful. Dragons are a must.

    At pumping after wars, it is by far the best. 97 hours postwar is enough to pump 180-190 nw/a.

    At gaining acres through min time, or even in the 3-7 day period, it is not the best. But that's assuming you go in comparably pumped, which is hard with non-merchant.

    At playing hybrid, it is very good and possibly the best. The extra income lets you get the thieves/science/draft that you need for hybrid to work.

    If you are warring against a kingdom much worse, you tend to gain a lot of acres and then the income bonus helps.
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    As a "war kd" leader; merchant is great. Best all round personality, any warring kd should use it as reference when picking setups "Why is this better than merchant". If you cannot motivate that choice; pick merchant

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    Playing in the ghettos this age, I feel like the difference between merchant and non is not as huge as the difference as dorje would have it in his war. If you pump well (and this is not a given for a lot of kds), there's a good case to be made for tact/cleric/warrior. Merchants build paper tigers, but math doesnt always translate to ecological validity.

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    Yea, we use tact/warrior for all our attackers, avian/clerics last age. Mainly due to sustainability. Nonetheless, merchant is best standard pers and can be used as baseline for ghettos if they're uncertain

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdorje View Post
    It depends on your goals.

    At securing war wins in long wars, it is the only personality that will be successful. Dragons are a must.

    At pumping after wars, it is by far the best. 97 hours postwar is enough to pump 180-190 nw/a.

    At gaining acres through min time, or even in the 3-7 day period, it is not the best. But that's assuming you go in comparably pumped, which is hard with non-merchant.

    At playing hybrid, it is very good and possibly the best. The extra income lets you get the thieves/science/draft that you need for hybrid to work.

    If you are warring against a kingdom much worse, you tend to gain a lot of acres and then the income bonus helps.
    Sage pwns hybrids.
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    Merchants are great for warring if you can keep pezzies, thats what it boils down to imo.

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    and keep spending your money before it gets stolen

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    And stay high enough in the charts that you don't have to run too many schools to protect your sci at all times.

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    Merchant is good enough this age that it will get a giant nerf next, ghetto or no.

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    Merchant does not need to get nerfed and merchant always been strong.
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    Simians has now done 1500+ hits on sanctuary

    Cheers on that!
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    yes, but whatever sanc was trying in the last 12 hrs certainly seems to have been at least somewhat profitable. I still think they are done.

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    my bet is this war last another week. haha

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    if it goes three more days I think sanc will regret it..... But I can be wrong. Just looking at land and NW curves, I am seeing sancs land/nw values track more closly than simians. So most of the NW change over in sanc is whatever the land is. I think the curve adjustment is likely a small higher gain wave that sanc did (I have not looked at the news, its just what I would expect from the patterns), noticing almost no variation in simians NW through that, I suspect simians armies are much healthier and as that chugs along with the "parabolic" momentum I see in the simians curve, I suspect in 24 hrs, we will see an acre value crossover, probably 6-8 hrs of acre value trading and then simians going over the top in both acres and NW. So, unless sanc withdraws earlier, I see an obviously unrecoverable situation for sanc in 32 hrs.
    Last edited by Sheister; 30-03-2012 at 21:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    So, unless sanc withdraws earlier, I see an obviously unrecoverable situation for sanc in 32 hrs.
    10 days of identical acre exchange and you suspect one side is going to take 10k acres in 32 hours?

    Good luck with that!

    P.S. War is now dead even again.

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