BIO vs ghettocats

[citadela01]

citadela01, Elurin and rest from Cats. Look like you don't have any idea how work game in top and for this you gave complete wrong examples.
For begin playing for land is most hard and boring job because you spend 2/3 from your age to dice/explore and you can lose any time your land and end with noting. Being WW kds is very easy. You have your max activity in wars. After it 4 days rest and few days re-pump. Again new war and repeat it. If you get wave from much stronger kd you can refuse to war and none can take away your WW from kd page. When you play for land if you get wave you must strike back or age is over if your goal is n1. WW/Honor kds can be active in wars but they cant be active every day all age. For this they cant grow when they try it. Back to how work land chart. TOP kds start grow oop and after all good/free land targets is over they have 2 choices. Go war or go in dice set. If you go war and rest kd start dice you will be behind because dice gains early on age is much bigger from good war win gains. For this most kds do CFs till yr 5-8 with notice deals. Its can be 24-48-72h. Every kd try to get his best deal for use it later. From this time all top land kds are out from range from rest kds and they rare hit small kds. Every one have his fair opponents. Now there come kd like cats for example. They rob KD A. Some one come to ask for CF and you told him to go to hell. You rob kd B and repeat same. Both kds have good chances for win age so they cant bother with small kd like you and try to adapt his strat to your robing. Next age they don't play for n1 and you are there again. Try to guess if they will punish you....and there don't have any reason to make it fair. If you keep rob same kd/province for week or more its make all very personal. They will want to kill you and they have power to make it. Its what happen now to Cats. Try to learn from it.
I'm not saying you need to CF/nap all top kds. None can force you to make it. But there is difference from no CF and constant be in news paper in same kd. In old days system was different. KD A wave kd B right after war and FORCE them for accept nap or they don't stop hits. If you break deal later because you was forced you are dead again because alliance will step in. Now with CFs all is much more fair and dynamic. Diplomacy is 70% from game now in top. If you end in range with top kds learn to use it for your advantage!

This is not what is happening here Elit.
For start let me say I dont play in Cats and never did, nor do I have any friends there. All my dealings with them were strictly on diplo level since we spent a lot of time in same nw range over several ages so we ran into eachother once in a while. They were allways exceptionally easy to deal with and perfectly nice bunch of ppl in my experience.

My point is there is slander campaign going on against them for quite some time now. You are not involved in kd's in question any more than I am but you seem convinced their actions are deserving of teaming up on them. You imply they were constantly, day after day, for weeks in some ppls news ... well I have a problem with that.

Ppl from bio, simians and Inso are in every thread about cats repeating that crap. For quite some time now. They insist Cats are constantly stealing into ACTIVE hostiles. Well I dont belive that.
I dont belive that because time after time ppl from Cats have asked for proof of this and offered to RETURN any money that was stolen from active hostles. Yet that allways gets ignored and rather than seeing proof presented they just go on with their rant about them stealing. Allwas same 10-15 ppl repeating slander untill they start beliveing it themself.

I can clearly see how its an avalanche effect since its obvious here on forums. ie if you rearead this thread you will see ppl blantantly lying that Cats waved Inso into active hostile ... wtf is that about ?? We KNOW that relations were closed ... aight ... I dont have a friggin amnesia to forget what happened just cause you repeat same **** over and over again.

So i tend to take Cats word on the stealing matter and belive them since I have seen first and here on these forums that other side is openly lying and twisting facts, as well as refusing to provide proof for something that is suposedly happening all the time.

Now my personal opinion on the Cats behaviour on the matter last age is they were beeing stupid pricks all along. Personally I would never do that. Each time my old KD happened to accidently end up in top 20 (not often the case, we used landrops to avoid top play bs) and with our presence there in warbuilds and fully trained presented potential threat I allways made sure to nap/cf charting KD's. Imo its of mutual benefit, we dont have to suffer occasional botomfeed here and there and they dont have to fear potential topfeeding retal war and random robs/learns.
Imo Elurin should have done the same, and if his goal was to war charting KD's just go with no timed naps and use ingame CF/notice deal, I am sure there was an agreement to be made somewhere there with charting KD's that would prevent **** thats going on now.

But with all that beeing said Cats didnt do anything wrong short of beeing stupid. All their actions were legit and acceptable when done by top KD's. For any real grevances they caused they ofered compensation.

So I call it as I see it, and what I see is antiabs KD coordinating agains Cats using powerplay and teaming up on them.
Thats the whole story ... flogger, baka, and tools from Inso are badguys here not Cats. You wanna teamup and GB indie KD who have noone backin them up cause you cant handle them in 1v1? sure ... go ahead ... not like it didnt happened thousand time in this game allrdy, if you didnt get gb'ed to pulp your missin out on part of uto experience =)

But if they gonna serve that propaganda **** on public forum and gloat about serving "justice" to Cats I aint gona eat it up and will call it for what it is.
You wanna claim to be badass oldshool FSU KD ? You deal with your own **** if you can, and if you cant than eat the pill served to you and walk away with boot up your arse ploting your revenge for next time,
thats how things are done in case you have forgotten. You have no crowning goals this age so whats preventing you ?

It takes special kind od sissy to call friends w/o even trying to settle your own score, never thought Bio and Baka to fall into that category ... guess I was wrong.