Quote Originally Posted by prot View Post
Didn't you b*tches whine at us when we hit you after you noticed us during hostile with Pulse?
Not the same situation at all. And although I wasn't happy with how that went down, it was only a minor power play.

1. Sanc noticed pulse.
2. Ceasefire ended, pulse sat in fortified (no limitation on duration).
3. Two days go by. Sanc gives up on pulse and instead notices inzo.
4. Hours before inzo cf ends, pulse leaves fortified and hits us a few times (odd since we had already told inzo we'd re-cf if pulse would fight us, which had been declined).
5. We retal pulse.
6. Inzo hits us 2x + 1x per day.

Inzo was in the wrong, but a few randoms isn't really anything to worry over so we didn't. This situation is quite clear cut since (1) simians noticed us (2) we announced our intention to fight them and told them not to wave anyone else, and hit their cow, and sent a dragon (3) they waved someone else anyway. It would be like if we'd waved inzo after pulse had started hitting us - we'd have invited a double-team onto ourselves. That's exactly what happened to simians.

There is another related situation to this, interesting since some current simians leaders were involved.

1. Sanc and fratzia were in a staring contest (i think we noticed them, not sure).
2. Neither side would hit; sanc instead noticed funshow (fratzia ally at the time) who was imminently farmable.
3. Funshow ceasefire expired and we waved them.
4. Marcel came to me and said they'd wave us if we waved funshow (a reasonable statement, but unfortunately we'd already half-completed our wave).
5. Fratzia waved us. We agreed we'd war them in exchange for some concessions with respect to the double team. We declared.
6. Funshow then waved us into the war.

Looking at it objectively though it's possible simians made the smart move. As it is they only gave us one free wave, while if it had gone to war they stood to lose a lot more. Nobody likes to fight a kingdom that has 9 unbreakables and 500m gc on hand. On the other hand since they've made no attempt at diplomacy, who knows what could happen afterwards.

The big winner here, of course, is rage.