L2Play. Under these changes, faery is the dominant crowning choice.Then kindly explain to me how Faeries are OP jss. Because not one person has been able to do so.
You play your TMs as merchants, with no attackers. Your opinion is invalid.That doesn't mean what I say is wrong though. TMs are bad.
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I'll McGovern you up, son. Wait, you know who McGovern was, right?
I agree with my full heart.Originally Posted by John Snowstorm
having a race who is UB is not a good thing elf and halfer is still breakable while faery is not.... faery can do massive damage to an atacker with both of their t/m power... and now their - pop is remove thus makjng their economic/ def power raise astronomically... while attacker (orc/ud) is not getting any buff (orc leets def reduce).... all i want to say is why don't you look on ranking page?? compare those of faery and any other races... bring all the number... land, nw, honour.... show us the average result...i know that the dev's want to keep t/m role and i appreciate it but make it so that every race is normal (they can be brought down equally by attack or t/m ops) don't make a race that is super ub both in def and t/m.... if a whole kd need to work on single prov (faery) in a gheeto war then this race is super imba.... if you did not want to change to anything about this race then we can see all age is not fair/on equal ground.... attacker must wake in the middle of the night to keep attacking while their honor/land/nw is not safe at all eventough he works so hard to keep them.... while faery can sit safely with super minimum activity.....i'm in a ghetto kd and fighting faery who is ub always give me a headache those faery can reduce my econ+def spec in just 1 day even though i have enough (attacker normal) wpa/tpa + 10-15 % WT...... this WT only delay a few hours.... when this faery doing propaganda/converting my wizz/thievery then that is the time my land+honor reset back to the beginning of age.... please nerf those faery so that they are still playable but still breakable (example + 50% of land gain when conquesting a faery, or raise WT % to catch thievery op you can give back those -3 generals)
Why are people still discussing the Faery thing? Just reduce the WPA/TPA boost from +30% to +25% WPA/TPA (half what Elf and Halfling is) then also change the -3 general penalty to -15% honor bonus. This will balance Faery provinces with the rest of the races while not destroying the Faery race. This is all that will be needed.
T/Ms apparently = black sheep of Utopia.
I love the defensive horse idea. Should be interesting :)
No final changes yet? No substantive changes coming this late I hope.
LOL! A race that can't multitap is not the dominate crowning race. Sorry. That in no way presented any kind of an argument explaining why Faery is OP.
Must be doing something right. #5 in nw, #6 in land with an "impossibly bad" setup, with a pretty inactive kd, and with a semi-active top-noob monarch who had to figure it out along the way. Seems my opinion is worth at least something.
Usually the final changes are out by now. I was really hoping to see them this morning as I enjoy reading the comments on them. Im not complaining, just a little disappointed.
I did not present any argument, I did not intend to. I am just stating fact. Feel free to ask some reputable strategists what they think of it, or, you know, L2Play.
I was unaware that being #5 nw and #6 for land was an accomplishment.
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I'll McGovern you up, son. Wait, you know who McGovern was, right?
It is for us. Everyone who was anyone told me that TFC was going to crash and burn and that everyone who was even capable of producing thoughts were going to farm us out asap. Finishing 5/6 is pretty awesome considering the circumstances.
But no. You want to make the claim, either put up an argument or gtfo?
Faeries
+ 30% Spell Damage (Instant Spells)
+ 20% Sabotage damage*
+ 30% WPA and TPA
- 3 generals
Access to All Racial Spells
Elite: 3/6, 800gc, 6NW
There's my argument, if you want a general lesson on strategy, there are plenty of people qualified to give it, I'm not going to try to teach you how to play the game for crowns in a suggestion thread.
ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)LOL! A race that can't multitap is not the dominate crowning race.
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I'll McGovern you up, son. Wait, you know who McGovern was, right?
Agreed. No point teaching someone who will never understand. Just a waste of effort.
I'll be surprised if Faery won't be penalized with something in the final changes (e.g. reduced pop and/or reduced elite value).
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how are you going to win a war against a competent kingdom if you can't send out more than one general? just max gain?
Fae's multi tapping.
AM I MISSING SOMETHING?
If you try to compete with a core of Faeries against a core of Avains, you're going to get blown out of the water. But hey, if you want to come back to utopia only have a fail age, be my guest.
Yes, I get that Faeries have full pop, ToG, ect ect. I've never said they're a BAD race but they are by no means overpowered.
@baka - lol. Everything I would like to say is against forum rules and that would reflect poorly on myself as a mod. That said, you guys did a great job making sure Rage didn't crown this age like you vowed to do. Have you guys thanked Simians publicly yet?
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