Age 55 potential changes

[Molly]

This faery discussion is sorta funny. There isnt a problem breaking faeries and once broken they go down like a collapsing building. The issue seems to be is it worth the trouble? Well that is the sort of tactical decision that makes the game interesting isn't it? Don't like spells or thief ops on you? then get some defense against it. If you play orc with 0.5 wpa and 1 tpa dont come crying why some tm beats the snot out of you get some defense. A kd with 6 faeries has given up 6 attackers to get that. Dont whine about it, exploit it.

[John Snowstorm]

lol Palem.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[AlphaWaveCascade]

Fae/War FTW

As per

[Palem]

Prove me wrong?

[John Snowstorm]

happily. have the devs leave the changes as is.

[natebane]

here's a possible suggestion:

Faeries
+ 45% Sabotage damage*
+ 45% Spell Damage (Instant Spells)

- 25% bonuses from honor

Access to All Racial Spells
Elite: 3/6, 800gc, 6NW


Humans
+5% Population
+ 30% WPA and TPA
+ 1 Offense specialist strength

Tree of Gold, Fountain of Knowledge, Chastity
Elite: 4/4, 600gc, 4NW

-Trade war spoils for chastity between humans and undead

switched the tm bonuses of human and fae. fae tm looks a little more balanced like this since they'll get an effective amount of tpa/ wpa if they go tm anyway, but reduced to an amount closer to other races with the honor penalty. This way humans and fae can both go TM or hybrid effectively.

[Palem]

That's not really under my control.
Nor is that really what I meant.

Impossible to learn when people refuse to teach =\

[peteyb22]

Natebane, that human of yours is waaayy too amazing.

[natebane]

maybe drop the pop bonus?

[Zobo]

here's a possible suggestion:

Faeries
+ 45% Sabotage damage*
+ 45% Spell Damage (Instant Spells)

- 25% bonuses from honor

Access to All Racial Spells
Elite: 3/6, 800gc, 6NW


Humans
+5% Population
+ 30% WPA and TPA
+ 1 Offense specialist strength

Tree of Gold, Fountain of Knowledge, Chastity
Elite: 4/4, 600gc, 4NW

-Trade war spoils for chastity between humans and undead

switched the tm bonuses of human and fae. fae tm looks a little more balanced like this since they'll get an effective amount of tpa/ wpa if they go tm anyway, but reduced to an amount closer to other races with the honor penalty. This way humans and fae can both go TM or hybrid effectively.

No. You don't know how important WPA/TPA mods are. They're not a substitute for a damage mod... That makes humans ridiculously overpowered and faeries worthless. Just compare what you've given to faeries to Undead. The +damage mods are (mostly) for flavor, though circumstantially nice.

[tiggis]

+ 30% Land Gain
+ 20% Enemy Casualties*
+ 30% opa

+3 generals

Conquest Anytime, Any NW
Elite: 6/3, 800gc, 6NW

[Zobo]

trollolololol

+ 30% Land Gain
+ 20% Enemy Casualties*
+ 30% opa

+3 generals

Conquest Anytime, Any NW
Elite: 6/3, 800gc, 6NW

[natebane]

Faeries
+ 25% Sabotage damage* and Spell Damage (Instant Spells)
+ 15% wpa/tpa

- 33% bonuses from honor

Access to All Racial Spells
Elite: 3/6, 800gc, 6NW

Humans
+ 25% WPA and TPA
+ 1 Offense specialist strength

Tree of Gold, Fountain of Knowledge, Chastity
Elite: 3/4, 550gc, 4NW

how about this? faerys will still be good early, but won't scale out of control with honor, and still gives them option to play attacker as well.

no pop bonus for humans, a drop in elite power, and slightly lower tm mods. they need a powerful spell like chastity to make them more appealing as a TM, but they won't be as 'unbreakable' as faery.

these look like fair tradeoffs, no?

[Going to Change]

no offence to anyones ideas but.....

MAKE CHANGES FINAL FAST!!!

So i dont have to read this non-sense anymore! and ofc i could not read if i didnt want to but, my goodness, sometimes its hard not too not post after you see some things sometimes.

[Gwynn]

Yeah....it has been way too long and the age ends very soon. We need to know what the final changes are to plan for next age. Why the heavy silence??