Hostile Simians style

[csarmi]

We will not give you a free hit. The moment you hit us we will raze you down with us.
There is no other answer to sort this out. I have offered EoA CF because i think we took away a good amount of acres and evened out the playing field. I would probably have given you a free hit if it were not for you using x6 generals before doing any diplomatic attempts and using the x6 generals despite of knowing it probably would get you dispended.

[emphasis by me!]

After calle hit me, I came to your channel to diplo (in the middle of the night). I offered him an end of this nonsense for a single max gain hit. He trolled me for it and took me for a fool. He claimed that "he don't make decisions" (lies), he insulted my intelligence by trying to stall diplo ("I'll ask them in the morning", yet another BS, you raze-wave someone in the middle of the night, you DO have diplomat up). I think I was right to take that as a refusal of any meaningful communications.

It was quite clear from your actions that the timing (monday 3am) was deliberate, the actions to stall diplo were clear enough and it wasn't no surprise OR unintentional that you couldn't be found then.

So stop BS'ing me pls, I'M not a fool.

But you know what, I take you on your word.

As I DID make diplomatic attempts before razing you guys back, you are thereby (see above) accept the free hit. YOUR OWN WORDS

[Ruukis]

We will not give you a free hit. The moment you hit us we will raze you down with us.
There is no other answer to sort this out. I have offered EoA CF because i think we took away a good amount of acres and evened out the playing field. I would probably have given you a free hit if it were not for you using x6 generals before doing any diplomatic attempts and using the x6 generals despite of knowing it probably would get you dispended.

I have my re-offer and its EoA cf, i think we better start fighting otherwise.

We have our stance and you have yours. You can cry wolf in here all you want and try to get people to GB or hit us. What you did was not okey from the position you were in.

LoL, you just are village funny guy.

So now you are openly admitting this GB was done so your prov would have 0.001% chance and shot to get prov land crown? :D What the f... seriously.

Do not cry rivers now in here that csarmi is arranging a GB and so on no one really cares.

[csarmi]

Like I can arrange anything... :)

[Anri]

LoL, you just are village funny guy.

So now you are openly admitting this GB was done so your prov would have 0.001% chance and shot to get prov land crown? :D What the f... seriously.

Do not cry rivers now in here that csarmi is arranging a GB and so on no one really cares.

We have not gangbanged anyone. You clearly cant tell the difference from a GB to two single players in one KD hitting another player in another KD. If this is how you define gangbang we are guilty of gangbang a few hundred times over an age.

I am not crying a river. Csarmi and friends is making topics about my KD and wants us to get hit down. The one that is whining is the one that farmed his way to #1 and got struck down for it.

Csarmi, you are NOT granted a free hit. The only deal you can get from us is CF for EoA.
If you hit us we raze you down again. If another friend of yours hit us we will raze him out from the crown as well. What we are looking at is destruction. I am giving you the best chance you will ever get to get #1 and take the crown. Because in the end of the day i think you are a decent player.
Even if you dont admit that you purposely kept the war going only to farm for the last days and get 100% control of #1 bank position.

The only thing that would have stopped us from dropping you down is if we had been in a CF or if i had known who you are and wanted to be nice to you and hand out that crown.

Dont try to twist my words. There is NO deal unless you do not agree to CF for EoA.

Good day

[citadela01]

Over the time I heared all sorts of crap reasons to powerplay someone, but this is the first time I see someone justify hitting into legit war with “we cant let you grow in war since you would be dangerous to us afterward“.

Simians are turning into a real **** KD lately.

[Anri]

[emphasis by me!]

After calle hit me, I came to your channel to diplo (in the middle of the night). I offered him an end of this nonsense for a single max gain hit. He trolled me for it and took me for a fool. He claimed that "he don't make decisions" (lies), he insulted my intelligence by trying to stall diplo ("I'll ask them in the morning", yet another BS, you raze-wave someone in the middle of the night, you DO have diplomat up). I think I was right to take that as a refusal of any meaningful communications.

It was quite clear from your actions that the timing (monday 3am) was deliberate, the actions to stall diplo were clear enough and it wasn't no surprise OR unintentional that you couldn't be found then.

So stop BS'ing me pls, I'M not a fool.

But you know what, I take you on your word.

As I DID make diplomatic attempts before razing you guys back, you are thereby (see above) accept the free hit. YOUR OWN WORDS

I did OK the hits. I however did not OK that they should do any diplomacy with you about it.
I have no obligations to stay up an entire night waiting for a bank to get online and contact me.

Infact i did not feel i had to make any diplomatics at all til yesterday when i took first contact with you.

You whine so hard in here Csarmi when you really never cared for #1. Big lol there...
You could have won that war days before and you choose to not take the win and instead farm.

You seriously need to get over yourself here. Ofc you get hit down for it!
You learnt a more then valueable lesson.

[Anri]

Its always the same people over and over trashtalking Simians.

You need to get laid and care about your own kds more

[Ruukis]

Its always the same people over and over trashtalking Simians.

You need to get laid and care about your own kds more

It has nothing to do with the actions you take its just yeah, we are poor little kids who cant get laid and want to just hop on someone, so we do it on Simians, cos why the hell not.

[SamVan]

Its always the same people over and over trashtalking Simians.

Theres no need to trashtalk on this matter. I dont know what u guys were thinking if u thought u could get away from hitting into war...

[TeddybearSTHLM]

You whine so hard in here Csarmi when you really never cared for #1. Big lol there...

for someone who just got ****played into a legit war, and then suspended when he desperately trying to defend himself, I'd say he is acting very coherent and calm, and handling it very well.

[csarmi]

I did OK the hits. I however did not OK that they should do any diplomacy with you about it.
I have no obligations to stay up an entire night waiting for a bank to get online and contact me.

Infact i did not feel i had to make any diplomatics at all til yesterday when i took first contact with you.

You whine so hard in here Csarmi when you really never cared for #1. Big lol there...
You could have won that war days before and you choose to not take the win and instead farm.

You seriously need to get over yourself here. Ofc you get hit down for it!
You learnt a more then valueable lesson.

What an entire BS Anri. You hit at NIGHT purposefully to be able to come up with excuses for not answering diplo. What kind of behaviour is that?
Don't tell me that you can hit the top prov in the game and not expect to have to diplo.

You have avoided diplomacy. Purposefully. ****ty move, but let's okay it then.
Then at least have the decency not to bring up the lack of diplo attempts or diplomacy taking place yourself!

You contradict yourself every second message.

First you claimed you knew who I was and okayed the hits.
Then you claimed you didn't know who I was and you wouldn't have okay'd it if you knew it.

Then you claim you'd have given back acres if diplomacy was tried before razing back.
You get proven wrong within the same page (that indeed, diplomacy was tried).

You play hide-and-seek instead of diplo and try to entertain me (and the whole server and forum laughing at you) that you guys attack people without anyone being able to be up and diplo about it.

Come on man!

Talk straight for once.

You knew who I was.
You knew exactly what the plan of your agressive (in my book also brilliant) bank pair was. You okay'd it yourself, aiming to mess me up.
You wanted them to have a shot at land crown and would stop at nothing to achieve that, not even razing into wars that you know YOURSELF are fully legit.

You do all that, but at least have the decency to keep the BS off it.

[csarmi]

Anyway, I got a job to do, so I'll get back to you in the evening. Until then, suit yourself.

[lastunicorn]

As soon as it turned out that you ca't touch the hammer (me)

So in this situation are Simians or BraveHearts Dr. Horrible?

[calle]

First of we made a wave , 21:00 on that sunday , they responded at 00:00 they dident want war.
Anri was still up , when he said NN ,

i asked him why nr 1 bank was farm war for 7-14 days i lost count on what day of war it was all i know was it was a long one , nw diffrence between the 2 kd in war was 2-300k apart from a auto ww , and so it hade been the last 48 h mabe it was 4-500k nw diffrence 48h erlyer , when you on
30k+ land and 550k peasants you pump 500k nw in 8-12 h
not in 3 days 4 days ....

you wanted to farm for as long as you was abel to no question
you made sure nw of both kd?s stayed with in a limit of no auto wd on own will,

when you contacted me after my 3x raze and halflings 1x tm
anri was sleep
halfling was sleep
realm and chuck hade left

I was only one left awake at 0300-0400 when you contacted me

you wanted a deal that i was not abel to give:

you wanted to hit halfling 1x tm oow for eoa cf

"""""I cant tell its ok you hit some one other then my self becuse i been there and ata/thura did this to me in Rage abs when i was sleep ( yes you get mad when you wake up and see some one else made a deal that include you lose land when you sleep )
"""""

I told you to wait for halfling and anri to wake up ~ 0800
you called me BS and said i stall when i was not,

you then 07:00 you 4x wd 2x raze me
and then think you have anything left to deal with to get a cf?
ofc you get suspended for game abuse
i agree that it might not be 100% easy to see its aginst the rules
BUT you said you know what you where doing and did it just becuse you wanted to show of that you know there was a way to abuse it.

if you hade WD then 4x as bishop said was the only legit move to fight back
we be 20 ppl 4x raze you and you know this becuse that whuld have left you 3-4 dpa at 26350a

you 6x raze me , i awnser with 1x raze 1x tm and halfling 1x tm

i then 1x raze and leave you alone last 24 hours !
( even do i whuld been abel to raze you 2x more in that 24h )

you now left with +3000-3500a from the war !

you still nr 1 bank land/nw still got the chance to crown most likly will!

you dont get to deal when you hit back thats simpel
i never seen a kd retal a wave/hit then get to diplo and come out on top!

You think what you did in war was ok , i think what i did to you was ok !!!
THATS WHERE WE AT !!!

[Anri]

First of we made a wave , 21:00 on that sunday , they responded at 00:00 they dident want war.
Anri was still up , when he said NN ,

i asked him why nr 1 bank was farm war for 7-14 days i lost count on what day of war it was all i know was it was a long one , nw diffrence between the 2 kd in war was 2-300k apart from a auto ww , and so it hade been the last 48 h mabe it was 4-500k nw diffrence 48h erlyer , when you on
30k+ land and 550k peasants you pump 500k nw in 8-12 h
not in 3 days 4 days ....

you wanted to farm for as long as you was abel to no question
you made sure nw of both kd?s stayed with in a limit of no auto wd on own will,

when you contacted me after my 3x raze and halflings 1x tm
anri was sleep
halfling was sleep
realm and chuck hade left

I was only one left awake at 0300-0400 when you contacted me

you wanted a deal that i was not abel to give:

you wanted to hit halfling 1x tm oow for eoa cf

"""""I cant tell its ok you hit some one other then my self becuse i been there and ata/thura did this to me in Rage abs when i was sleep ( yes you get mad when you wake up and see some one else made a deal that include you lose land when you sleep )
"""""

I told you to wait for halfling and anri to wake up ~ 0800
you called me BS and said i stall when i was not,

you then 07:00 you 4x wd 2x raze me
and then think you have anything left to deal with to get a cf?
ofc you get suspended for game abuse
i agree that it might not be 100% easy to see its aginst the rules
BUT you said you know what you where doing and did it just becuse you wanted to show of that you know there was a way to abuse it.

if you hade WD then 4x as bishop said was the only legit move to fight back
we be 20 ppl 4x raze you and you know this becuse that whuld have left you 3-4 dpa at 26350a

you 6x raze me , i awnser with 1x raze 1x tm and halfling 1x tm

i then 1x raze and leave you alone last 24 hours !
( even do i whuld been abel to raze you 2x more in that 24h )

you now left with +3000-3500a from the war !

you still nr 1 bank land/nw still got the chance to crown most likly will!

you dont get to deal when you hit back thats simpel
i never seen a kd retal a wave/hit then get to diplo and come out on top!

You think what you did in war was ok , i think what i did to you was ok !!!
THATS WHERE WE AT !!!

TY calle

I no longer have to debatte this and you provided better info then me.

I dont expect a normal peon/nub from other KDs on this server to fully understand the situation you explained here Calle. But it should be good enough for at least some other people with bank and top experience to understand the difference between a farm war and whats not a farm war.

If we had the right to stop it or not. Most will say we did not have the right to stop it.
But who would have stopped it then? Should he have been allowed to farm his way to 35k or even 40k acres before he no longer could have avoided the auto-wd.

Csarmi started this forum diplomacy. He is trying to make people GB us, he has also put the majority of known Simian haters here to troll and swing the majority in this issue to his favour.

What the common day to day player in a ghetto or average KD will not understand is that the war Csarmi had was by day 7 nothing but a farmfest for him to reach and take fullest control of #1 position. His respons with 6 razes was also unlegit and he showed in many ways that he could not protect his acres without breaking the rules and its clear to anyone with some game expertise that Csarmi was indeed farming.

We could have had some other KD police this matter but we were the ones playing for #1 and #2 bank on the server. So why shouldnt we be the one to stop the uncontrolled growth another player has in a farm war. Take a note that we did not raze Csarmi until it became more then clear it was a farm-war. A farm war that would give him #1 crown. And in what style would he get it? By farming for it by avoiding auto-wd. Yet this man claims his only interest was to win.

With his millions worth of income and his incredible draft he would have made them auto-wd within half a day just like Calle said. He could have trained up day 6 to win day 7. He choose not to do this to keep farming. It was not in the interest of his KD, they did not want that TB oow, they wanted to win and Csarmi also claims he wanted to win.

Its so much BS..

Csarmi wanted to be #1 bank on a untouched position with ability to pump non stop.
He was on active science entire war as well. He was becoming unstopable because he choosed to keep war going after day 7.

But go ahead, blame Simians. We are so dirty. lol

Why dont you look at the one that was farming instead and question him.
He farms, he break the rules, he avoids getting razed out and he lies about his true intentions and he tries to come here and whine to get us GBed.

I am more then pissed off right now