Let's just clear somethings up here as this convo is getting way out of hand and actually no longer has much to do with anything, while a lot of people seem to think they're debating something valid.

In brief:

- ED aren't utopia police, if people want to land drop we're not going to swing by and randomly start raze killing some 3 mill NW KD because they shaved off 500 acres from a random province. That however, doesn't mean to say we agree with it.

- The topic revolving around land dropping is neither here nor there, the only reason land dropping was brought up is because it was relevant to our actions. We asked for a war against The Unsullied and they played along saying they'd likely war us, they asked for people to raze them even doing it in public channels we were idle in. After ~48 hours of us waiting expecting them to war us they then refuse stating ED are too big, this is why land dropping is mentioned because it is directly related to their excuses for not waring us... We then offered to defect a 200k prov to make NW sizes more even and they again refused stating that we had a dragon paid for, so we'd wasted 48 hours and a few million gold to be tossed stupid excuses, ergo we decided if they liked land dropping we would provide them with more free razes.

- Debauchery land dropping, I believe this was brought up as it is in direct conflict to their monarchs quotes that they were "trying to grow into range to war us", how do you grow into range while having acres hacked off by anon hits and razes? Our beef with them has zero to do with their play style of land dropping, it might be mentioned as an ancillary reason for why we do not like their play style of hitting into EoWFCs, ghetto bashing, et al.

Neither of or raze kills or grudges has been directly "going after land droppers", the fact that it is there is a personal added bonus.

So you can all save your definitions of land dropping, no-one will ever get everyone to agree on what is and is not acceptable. People claim that you "can't do something" because of chained provs and provs outgrowing their KD, we had 5 wars last age in ~7-8 weeks and we've had 4 wars this age in 6 weeks against larger average KDs.

Maybe you should work on using what you have and how to wield it instead of being a one trick pony needing provs to line up in nice neat sizes so you can chain in order the only way you know how.