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    The Most Honorable Kingdoms in the World (as of March 21 of YR7).
    2 Debauchery (x:xx) Dorf 86,606
    7 Evil Dragons (x:xx) Lionia 79,541

    Well... that's interesting! I so wish I could get an insider's view! :P I hope to see a report on that war!
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    Quote Originally Posted by THX1912 View Post
    The Most Honorable Kingdoms in the World (as of March 21 of YR7).
    2 Debauchery (x:xx) Dorf 86,606
    7 Evil Dragons (x:xx) Lionia 79,541

    Well... that's interesting! I so wish I could get an insider's view! :P I hope to see a report on that war!
    you build honor when u massively top feed

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    Well it's a tough war. We totally outhit strippers first days and farmed enormous amounts of honor and acres. (due to them having a lot of T/Ms).
    The longer the war progresses the more valuable their T/Ms becomes though.

    As the game works right now you can have 100% offense attackers with 100-150k nw and land def......and if you are 250k+ nw you gain basically nothing with your hits on them.
    Few years ago they would have been long dead...could have used big provs to raze them down.

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    From watching the networth change on their kingdom page .... Debauhery started 700k+ nw down after suffering days of massacres and stripping acres off of their biggies and then razes for days until they raze killed a large elf . When debauchery started war it was 23v25 and they had 1 elf in 3 day protection . Later they invited 2 new players and at one point dropped to 1.5 mil nw gap difference and almost 20000 acre difference . Now it looks like they have a better gap then what they started with and acres are slowly leaning in debachry favor ... As for earlier post about dragons havin endless things they " could " do I laughed hard at the bounce wave halfers comment . Gonna bounce wave their 200k def to 50k so Ur smallies can 1x tap them ? Would be fun to see !

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    Well, i told Zauper u guys would get screwed when u came across a kd who know how to counteract highly active attackers....this is it. Now while i think strippers is pretty ghetto they do have a firm grasp on how to war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cows View Post
    I laughed hard at the bounce wave halfers comment . Gonna bounce wave their 200k def to 50k so Ur smallies can 1x tap them ? Would be fun to see !
    its the right move, Freeakstyle did this to my kd a few ages back to great success, its a winning strategy if the other kd doesnt 100% know how to counter and have a plan to stop it.

    This is because you cant chain attackers out of war anymore, if they keep attacking. If you simply chain them to 50-100 acres and kill all their offense all you do is lower their nw so much that your own attackers start geting chained hard. Ultimately you end up with a whole bunch of attackers in both kds w/next to no offense/def. The kd w/the least shelled & more active t/m's ends up winning. ED best bet now is max gain 3-4 hits+bounce an "ub" with their attackers. Their attackers will settle into size a bit smaller than Strippers, but they can eventually top feed back the acres and re-gain honor. Bouncing willll slowly kill the def of the bigs and bring their def down enough that conquest/full break is viable. Simiarlly any attacker that has "enough" acres can start massacre or bouncing the ub's trying to kill def. In war now-a-days your never to big to be oor if you're def is breakable so strippers is set up nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Persain View Post
    strippers is pretty ghetto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Persain View Post
    its the right move, Freeakstyle did this to my kd a few ages back to great success, its a winning strategy if the other kd doesnt 100% know how to counter and have a plan to stop it.
    I've never personally tried this strategy, but I could only see it working at the start of a conflict. We are in day 8 of war, its too late. Although ED can try it and see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cows View Post
    From watching the networth change on their kingdom page .... Debauhery started 700k+ nw down after suffering days of massacres and stripping acres off of their biggies and then razes for days until they raze killed a large elf . When debauchery started war it was 23v25 and they had 1 elf in 3 day protection . Later they invited 2 new players and at one point dropped to 1.5 mil nw gap difference and almost 20000 acre difference . Now it looks like they have a better gap then what they started with and acres are slowly leaning in debachry favor ... As for earlier post about dragons havin endless things they " could " do I laughed hard at the bounce wave halfers comment . Gonna bounce wave their 200k def to 50k so Ur smallies can 1x tap them ? Would be fun to see !
    ED spent 2-3 days razing a small elf losing 500-800 elites/raze while 23 provinces in strippers were left totally unhit...just pumping and saving gc with plunders. Also a friendly kd of strippers razekilled a high offense orc in ED from oow relation. The huge nw and land gap was created the first days of war when Strippers were completely outhit.

    And yeah, the game mechanics is completely different from when I played few years ago. Game looks a lot more "noob friendly" now, it's virtually impossible to get killed in war or in hostile.
    No razes, extremely nerfed bottomfeed gains, very high oow losses. Can't say I like it tbh
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    I'm sure the 23 unhit provs didn't simply sit there and watch their friend get raze killed. If it took that long to razekill one prov, you can bet they were all sending all the aid they could afford to send him. That pretty much negates most of the pumping that could have occurred.

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    what does "(Y)" mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by SillyRabbit View Post
    I've never personally tried this strategy, but I could only see it working at the start of a conflict. We are in day 8 of war, its too late. Although ED can try it and see what happens
    8 days of war is the right time to start it. All of their kd is on land def. Say you have 50k offense, 2k offense breaks the attackers u need to get land from and your left with 42-44k offense to bounce with. Its not like killing your leets are gonna hurt much and its more than likely the guys you are bouncing into arent cleric or have hospitals. Their def will drop faster than your offense, so who cares if u end up with 40k mod offense, u can still send the 6-8k to break their zero def people and hopefully 32-34k is enough to conquest finally.

    Theres really one one semi-counter to this and based on kd pages and kd history i dont think strippers can pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zmasternr1 View Post
    ED spent 2-3 days razing a small elf losing 500-800 elites/raze while 23 provinces in strippers were left totally unhit...just pumping and saving gc with plunders. Also a friendly kd of strippers razekilled a high offense orc in ED from oow relation. The huge nw and land gap was created the first days of war when Strippers were completely outhit.
    Are you actually trying to say that your kd took more damage from razekilling our elf marquis than we did from losing a top honour/wpa elf?

    Quote Originally Posted by zmasternr1 View Post
    And yeah, the game mechanics is completely different from when I played few years ago. Game looks a lot more "noob friendly" now, it's virtually impossible to get killed in war or in hostile.
    No razes, extremely nerfed bottomfeed gains, very high oow losses. Can't say I like it tbh
    Game mechanics change, and so should your strategy. We've played this war for the long-term since the beginning, and now we are finally getting results. It is clear how this will end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persain View Post
    what does "(Y)" mean?
    It is a thumbs-up.

    In regard to the other section of your post, you must not know much about our kd :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyRabbit View Post
    Game mechanics change, and so should your strategy. We've played this war for the long-term since the beginning, and now we are finally getting results. It is clear how this will end.
    Getting farmed 20k honor and 10k acres was part of your plan? what if we withdrew after 2-3 days?
    Tbh there is no way your kd is going to win this war if that's what you believe.

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    Go Deb :)

    I know you can pull it off

    Land means nothing if they empty shells

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyRabbit View Post
    It is a thumbs-up.

    In regard to the other section of your post, you must not know much about our kd :P
    ah...cool as for knowledge about your kd, i started paying attention in WoL (i usually played genesis as it was more fun) right about the time you guys were coming off your peak. I know you guys mostly by reputation, its a high reputation but still not as well as i'd like <3 lol

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