Debauchery...

[Andr3w]

So we agreed on terms and after a 24-hour max gains marathon, we agreed to withdraw as soon after the minimum time as possible if they'd let us get back to where we started. At the end of the day, that's exactly where we ended up.

...They also indicated that they wanted to finish war 'up' in acres...
...We were about 63k acres and we were looking at a target that was 58k acres. So we started using in-war learns on their monarch, to limit our acre intake and also put pressure on him to surrender...

"So we agreed on terms and after a 24-hour(????) max gains marathon, we agreed to withdraw as soon after the minimum time as possible if they'd let us get back to where we started. At the end of the day, that's exactly where we ended up."


Dont that explains the fake war itself...? You agreed to have a 24h war of max gain and withdraw min time if they (debauchery) LET you get back your acres.. (Pretty sure min-time war is much longer than 24h..what happens to the leftover time?).. and debauchery doing the learn hits which seems to do in accordance to the 'agreement'...? that above somehow feels like a confession..

Lastly, does everyone here agree that the punishment is just? I am fine losing my province, but having the record set to 0/0 is way over the top! If one war was deemed a 'fake-war', shouldn't our record be 7/8? This is just another indication that the moderators making these decisions have a strong bias against us.

Dont think it is due to bias or at least not entirely. Seems logical decision, IF one is already deemed 'fake-war', well who knows if it is the same for previous wars. Rather than digging through 2months+ worth of ingame msg + actual war data to carefully decide each war of which is 'fake' which isn't, might as well be more thorough, No? Its more practical.

No offense Bishop can you tell us what rules we broke and so we and the whole utopian community knows what can/can not be done in this game with a link thank you...

Clear statements indicating the rules of what can and cannot be done is pointless. People will just find loopholes in the statements and do something which may seem different but gets the same results.

Now, show me any other "non-dirty" way I could use my thieves and stealth to get 4mil and I'll give up on robbing in eowcfs. Show me who is foolish enough to sit on 11mil gc when out of war. Right now, the way people regard the eowcf protection bonuses, this is simply the most efficient thing to do, until people start using the bonuses to rebuild, like they should....

Im pretty sure you can find if you try.. Seen various examples, such as some KD's Bank practically have 0 tpa with low draft rate? lol...theres even peeps with 20-50mil or even more out of war? But thats IF you want to try to op them and get their retals.. so yes, there are plenty of "foolish" KD around? :) Pretty sure you wont want the same thing happen during your eowcf dont you? if stealing gc is fine for you, does that means hitting into your KD during your eowcf is fine as well, yes?