Evil Dragons...

[Tedurur]

Damn you're totally right simians is getting their ASS handed to them

You good sir need to lrn2read...Where did he say that ED were giving an ass whopping to SIMIANS? Oh, thats right. Nowhere...
However, SIMIANS have been passed in the NW rankings by both BB and AMA since the "hostilities" between a few provs in ED and SIMIANS began. Its also a fact that the two provinces in SIMIANS have ~20 DPA and 30 OPA and no income nor TB to change that anytime soon.

[Anri]

Fyi i just checked. 42 OPA, 31 DPA, 16.6 pop/A. This after we doubled him from 3k to 6.9k acres. We also care sooooooo much if our friends in BB and AMA grows to end a spot ahead of us. This age been since long over for all three KDs and we await incoming age. Have fun thinking you make a change. You gave them GBP so that we can explore/train them when we feel like it. While your KD is getting destroyed. Do we care about thier TBs? No. Age is ending man. Have fun!

Let me know if you are going to accept our CF or not before this age ends :)

[Palem]

3*2=6.9?

That's some Vines math right there lol

[Tedurur]

You good sir need to lrn2read...Where did he say that ED were giving an ass whopping to SIMIANS? Oh, thats right. Nowhere...
However, SIMIANS have been passed in the NW rankings by both BB and AMA since the "hostilities" between a few provs in ED and SIMIANS began. Its also a fact that the two provinces in SIMIANS have ~20 DPA and 30 OPA and no income nor TB to change that anytime soon.

Well, you might not care about the age anymore (newflash: neither do we), but your steward certainly does. He is the only reason we are still doing this. If he hadnt been on such a powertrip and treathening to raze us every age from now on in the first place then we would have accepted the CF long time ago. Not so much for the fact that we are scared of you razing us each age but for the fact that it seemed so fun to annoy him :)

[noldo]

After an exhausting age with a lot of exploring, bottomfeeding and careful avoidance of any decent kd Simians decided to find an eoa fight to push them further in the rankings.
Desperately seeking acres they came to the notorious Evildragons thinking "hey we are 32m nw vs 11m nw, perhaps we can win this if we max activity and plan carefully". They eyed out the only province in ED that was big enough to retal and started collecting their well deserved acres in this glorious eoa fight. After a while they realized who the player of the mighty halfer province was and Anri got truly scared. They quickly sent messages saying "retal and we razekill you and all your kdmates", talked about cf and crossed their thumbs.

By Zmaster-policy retals were made, because zmasternr1 never gives away free acres to any ghetto. Be it a large one or a small one. Hits were made on Simians Steward.
Steward started crying how everyone would be razekilled, how the game admins would give him back his acres...how ED monarch would agree to cf in return for free hits on the halfer.
Razewar started.

25m nw worth of orcs started pounding the small helpless provinces in ED who put up a last stand against a much bigger kd. Despite 6 days of extensive razing the few active provs in ED managed to bring down the steward prov + another orc (despite massaiding+exploringhelp from all of Simians). Claiming this to be an active hostile Simians temporarily managed to be left alone by the other top kds but it also removed their ability to hit out of hostile. Doing razes every 15h soon started taking it's toll on Simians offense.

Realizing the impossible odds Simians now would face against any same-sized kd being 2 provinces semi-disabled and all Anri took the brave decision to stay in the razehostile until eoa. Claiming it was to teach ED a lesson.

Anyway, razewar is coming to an end long before eoa. Perhaps we disable Simians 2 bottom provs and then run into a ghetto war or something. Removing their hostile tag.
By that time Simians will be wide open and ripe for farming like they usually are eoa. And once again the mighty Evildragons has taught another ghetto a valuable lesson.

rofl.

[silverfox]

Ok to quickly cover; AlienLimb you're clueless, it's no wonder Debauchery are such a ghetto when they have people with your intellectual capacity playing in there. The only KD razing ED is Simians because of what has happened between them so it has nothing to do with your stupid theories.

Thats not exactly what happend.... anyway they are getting razed/pked/forced into vac til there is nothing left of them. Is a threat really a threat if its put into action? The kd of ED hit us first btw. I offered cf from the start. Without claims of getting anything. (there was nothing to take). These nubs said eoa conflict. I said ok, razefest til all of them is oor then we proceed with killing them. We are taking bets atm. How many dragons can die or get forced into vac mode before age is over. I think 13.

EDIT: cf offer is standing when you want mercy.

Also. The community is not razing them. Simians is..

After reading this I can see why literally not a single person I've spoken to about you or Simians has a good word to say for you/KD.

How about we actually go with the real story? Where Simians spent a few days intelling our biggest provs, hitting us and getting retalled. Then Simians decided to retal our hits back, your Steward sends our player a message calling him the biggest noob ever and how you'll raze kill ED this age and in future ages.

You then try to contact various people in ED over a CF including myself, I told you about your Stewards threats and we saw no reason to CF since at the time we had about 4 people logging in. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough:

[18:01] <silverfox> Is about goals, we have nothing to do this age and are bored waiting for it to end
[18:01] <silverfox> You're T5 and probably want to get higher
[18:01] <silverfox> If not then we both have nothing to lose

In short your dip is terrible, you make threats against a KD with nothing to lose, oh no we're 50th Land/NW and not logging in please don't take away our super high ranking!!!

American Badass is in danger of giving Simians a decent name so I'm going to have to ask him to politely stop being reasonable and using logic, but I think the idea of "no hard feelings" kinda got lost the second someone let the little doggy Steward off his leash (should really be on xbox live I feel).

PS. Just to confirm, no thanks for CF.

[Bishop]

your Steward sends our player a message calling him the biggest noob ever and how you'll raze kill ED this age and in future ages.

Simians have council issues.

[Anri]

3*2=6.9?

That's some Vines math right there lol

He quadhit for 900 acres from them before exploring him. He also explored for a few more ticks after we doubled him. His end result said 7.6k acres but he got hit by another KD once for about 700a putting him down at 6.9k acres to sum it up.

[Anri]

Simians have council issues.

No, we dont tyvm :)

Id say the other KD has issues when they have put 6 people in vacation mode <-----
And is dying overall.....

[Anri]

Ok to quickly cover; AlienLimb you're clueless, it's no wonder Debauchery are such a ghetto when they have people with your intellectual capacity playing in there. The only KD razing ED is Simians because of what has happened between them so it has nothing to do with your stupid theories.



After reading this I can see why literally not a single person I've spoken to about you or Simians has a good word to say for you/KD.

How about we actually go with the real story? Where Simians spent a few days intelling our biggest provs, hitting us and getting retalled. Then Simians decided to retal our hits back, your Steward sends our player a message calling him the biggest noob ever and how you'll raze kill ED this age and in future ages.

You then try to contact various people in ED over a CF including myself, I told you about your Stewards threats and we saw no reason to CF since at the time we had about 4 people logging in. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough:

[18:01] <silverfox> Is about goals, we have nothing to do this age and are bored waiting for it to end
[18:01] <silverfox> You're T5 and probably want to get higher
[18:01] <silverfox> If not then we both have nothing to lose

In short your dip is terrible, you make threats against a KD with nothing to lose, oh no we're 50th Land/NW and not logging in please don't take away our super high ranking!!!

American Badass is in danger of giving Simians a decent name so I'm going to have to ask him to politely stop being reasonable and using logic, but I think the idea of "no hard feelings" kinda got lost the second someone let the little doggy Steward off his leash (should really be on xbox live I feel).

PS. Just to confirm, no thanks for CF.

Ok since u like to post loggfiles and trying to make me look bad. Here is the logg of our conversation. After you, Cessna and others jumped our channel to badmouth us.

First from Silverfox - Anri query:

[18:46:56] <Anri|afk> hi
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> Love is Grand () - King - 63% BE. CB(WoL)
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> |Avian |Gold: 107,101|Sols : 1|Off: 89,635|Thi: 5,312|
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> |The Cleric |Food: 18,254|Ospec: 0| (126.96 opa)| (7.52 tpa)|
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> |Land: 706|Rune: 84,090|Dspec: 2,126|Def: 49,119|Wiz: 1,992|
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> |Nw: 165,277gc|Peas: 181|Elite: 12,829| (69.57 dpa)| (2.82 wpa)|
[18:47:03] <Anri|afk> BadIRC ExportLine -> jDffgCZx\sd1S16|CeInil3s7C1KZ0eu81?tZ--a$vAP'su7 7Ib3DZ46$FFElzzR'G/Pe-g$iGIpucf\2T\3$03lTJ <-
[18:47:07] <Anri|afk> send that guy some food
[18:47:12] <Anri|afk> and call/sms him
[18:47:19] <Anri|afk> we really not looking to harm your KD at all
[18:47:28] <Anri|afk> i asked your KD for CF like 2-3 days ago
[18:47:30] <silverfox> Im not going to msg parth
[18:47:52] <Anri|afk> i heard he is on vacation for a week, or maybe was someone else. zauper or whoever else is there
[18:48:04] <Anri|afk> Anyway, we are not looking to harm your KD at all. Never was looking for it
[18:48:19] <silverfox> Is this actually going to go anywhere?
[18:48:29] <Anri|afk> I dont know, cause i see no leader to talk to?
[18:48:33] <Anri|afk> Or is there one?
[18:48:47] <silverfox> We have leadership around yes
[18:48:56] <Anri|afk> Zauper?
[18:49:02] <silverfox> But I don't see there being much to talk about
[18:49:06] <silverfox> Myself and Ted
[18:49:12] <Anri|afk> Well, perfect
[18:49:16] <silverfox> And parth/zauper still
[18:49:20] <Anri|afk> Whats is your goal?
[18:49:32] <silverfox> There is no goal
[18:49:36] <Anri|afk> Werent you playing for sleepy?
[18:50:00] <silverfox> You hit us, someone in your KD sent us a few messages being a dick about how you're going to raze kill us this age and in future ages
[18:50:17] <Anri|afk> Who was that?
[18:50:19] <silverfox> You threatern to raze us
[18:50:32] <Anri|afk> Dont misstake threats for facts thou
[18:50:37] <Anri|afk> What i say goes here
[18:51:10] <Anri|afk> If i say we will raze, then we raze, if i say we will massacre then we massacre, if i say we will pk someone then we do it
[18:51:14] <silverfox> The simple fact is none of us who are logging in enough care if we're raze killed, I'd actually laugh if parth died
[18:51:17] <Anri|afk> I just pointed out to you that we will not kill anyone
[18:51:25] <Anri|afk> Parth is almost dead and i told you to have him login
[18:51:28] <Anri|afk> to save the prov
[18:51:50] <silverfox> So from what I can see, we don't care less about the age, you don't if you're razing, ergo there is nothing really to resolve
[18:52:12] <Anri|afk> We can end it with a CF so both can do other things, better things
[18:52:23] <Anri|afk> But maybe you dont intend to do anything more this age?
[18:52:46] <Anri|afk> From what i know you made some enemies and maybe its better to hit them for EoA?
[18:52:55] <Anri|afk> I also had kds message me asking us to stop hitting you guys
[18:53:02] <Anri|afk> so they get a chance to war/hostile you
[18:53:11] <Anri|afk> (in range opponent)
[18:53:11] <silverfox> Well I think you can see from our monarchs prov how much people care about the age
[18:53:39] <Anri|afk> And, how does this effect Simians really? We have no beef or no bad intentions towards evil dragons
[18:53:45] <Anri|afk> We asked for a CF from the start
[18:54:12] <Anri|afk> Someone badmouthed you, i dont know who it was even
[18:54:30] <Anri|afk> But if this was the start of it then maybe you should have messaged me on irc or ingame (monarch)
[18:55:32] <silverfox> on our minds (S)
[18:55:46] <silverfox> Sent sand rig a msg, I dont have the logs atm
[18:55:53] <Anri|afk> why did you guys send parth food?
[18:55:55] <silverfox> calling him a noob and other threats
[18:55:58] <Anri|afk> If you want him to die?
[18:56:11] <silverfox> I didnt know we had
[18:56:30] <Anri|afk> I told you guys to send him food (Cessna and you) By showing sot alone and telling cessna about it
[18:56:41] <Anri|afk> You sent him food, but you dont care if he lives or dies
[18:56:52] <Anri|afk> that contradictes what you just told me
[18:57:00] <Anri|afk> You guys dont at all care if he live or dies
[18:57:02] <silverfox> June 20 of YR12 Loved grains has sent an aid shipment to Love is Grand.
[18:57:10] <silverfox> thats our last aid shipment
[18:57:13] <silverfox> 3 hours ago
[18:57:24] <silverfox> And that prov isnt me nor ces
[18:57:40] <Anri|afk> ok ok i see he got food before that now
[18:58:09] <silverfox> Ofc I wouldn't want parth to die, it just means I can laugh at him though, but realistically it doesnt matter
[18:58:10] <Anri|afk> Love is Grand (8:37) - King - 63% BE. CB(WoL)
[18:58:10] <Anri|afk> |Avian |Gold: 102,700|Sols : 3|Off: 88,989|Thi: 5,312|
[18:58:11] <Anri|afk> |The Cleric |Food: 14,567|Ospec: 0| (126.05 opa)| (7.52 tpa)|
[18:58:11] <Anri|afk> |Land: 706|Rune: 83,071|Dspec: 2,127|Def: 48,735|Wiz: 1,992|
[18:58:11] <Anri|afk> |Nw: 165,254gc|Peas: 156|Elite: 12,829| (69.03 dpa)| (2.82 wpa)|
[18:58:11] <Anri|afk> BadIRC ExportLine -> ?sBe"B2jZh6uD7*Ij9aRa1A.7.Shray8,aRsK$6xKoZ8Pbg Gd4g|-k\-2R}0buZK1.Boq/FkicJl3656/v}hk9z.]i <-
[18:58:15] <Anri|afk> updated sot 156 pessies
[18:58:25] <Anri|afk> it should take about 10-15 ticks then he is dead
[18:58:33] <Anri|afk> without us touching him (faster if we do)
[18:58:47] <Anri|afk> Anyway, we really are not interested in hurting your KD
[18:59:02] <Anri|afk> Why would we want to like kill and kick down a KD at your level/range?
[18:59:06] <Anri|afk> Makes no sense to me
[18:59:12] <Anri|afk> And why you ask for it makes even less sense to me
[18:59:37] <silverfox> It's not about making sense
[18:59:43] <silverfox> Its about some of us being bored
[18:59:57] <silverfox> I was going to hit frogpunchers till EoA because they sent me a msg being dicks
[19:00:11] <silverfox> Then you guys send us a msg being dicks from your steward
[19:00:33] <Anri|afk> would not these frogpunchers be easier then trying to fight a t5 kd?
[19:00:44] <Anri|afk> Im sry if our steward was a dick
[19:00:45] <silverfox> Its not about being easy
[19:00:47] <Anri|afk> have not seen that
[19:01:05] <silverfox> Is about goals, we have nothing to do this age and are bored waiting for it to end
[19:01:14] <silverfox> You're T5 and probably want to get higher
[19:01:19] <Anri|afk> No
[19:01:22] <Anri|afk> we are as high as it goes
[19:01:29] <silverfox> If not then we both have nothing to lose
[19:01:32] <Anri|afk> Its 4 absalom above us
[19:02:03] <Anri|afk> We are highest charted KD among anti-abs. Its as high as we can go. We dont stand a chance vs those 4 together above us
[19:02:35] <Anri|afk> We also have no interest in making bad blood with evil dragons
[19:02:44] <Anri|afk> There is absolutely no reason at all
[19:03:05] <Anri|afk> We are abs-hostile KD and try to treat all others fair cause we want to concentrate on abs alone
[19:03:35] <Anri|afk> I see no reason for this game-play. I will talk to my steward and give him a good ****ing lesson/speech
[19:03:51] <Anri|afk> I was unaware of how all of this started
[19:04:51] <silverfox> I agree that it's pointless
[19:05:55] <silverfox> But that's how things are right now, I'll ask other people what they want to do but Im not sure they will say we should CF
[19:08:17] <Anri|afk> Thats ok. But let them know that i dont want any bad blood between us. It will not benefit any of our kds for upcoming age. I dont want to take this further and start ordering pks and ****. I am trying to avoid all of this the most we can. We wanna play with the big guys and have some fun. This is not fun at all for us but we are Simians and we been in hostiles lasting for many many ages. We dont give up this age or next age if you really are looking for this beef of any kind. Cause we will consider it a beef if you dont come to your senses
[19:08:49] <Anri|afk> I am hoping that if we parth ways you can proceed to have some fun and work on the KD for next age instead
[19:08:56] <Anri|afk> And that there will be no bad feelings
[19:09:24] <Anri|afk> If the answer is no, its not a threat its a fact that heads will roll this and next age :). Take that as a friendly kind of fact
[19:09:25] <Anri|afk> lol
[19:10:11] <silverfox> I'll talk to KD, but what happens in the future is irrelivent
[19:10:21] <silverfox> Find out what your stewards issue is and it might help
[19:10:24] <silverfox> im off for a bit
[19:10:28] <Anri|afk> i will
[19:10:31] <Anri|afk> later

Ok, so here i tried to make a CF. After this, 24-48h after they start coming here to the boards to. Ehh complain? They were offered CF and i was trying my best to be nice. They never stopped hitting us. Thus i order razes and try to force a few PKs.

Before i attempted diplomacy they came to #simians.

[18:42:28] :::::: silverfox (silverfox@uto-E8C52460.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #simians
[18:42:34] <silverfox> Dear Anri
[18:42:45] <Cessna> oh no
[18:42:54] <Cessna> silverfox is gonna break out in limerick
[18:42:57] <silverfox> Stop ****ing messaging us with your fa*** threats, we do not care, put up or shut the **** up, we will remember
[18:42:59] <silverfox> TY
[18:43:01] :::::: silverfox (silverfox@uto-E8C52460.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has left #simians
[18:43:12] <~Anri|afk> remember what?
[18:43:18] <Cessna> lolz
[18:43:23] <Cessna> he's a wordy one

I am starting to get a bit fed up about nubs crying wolf when they start hostiles with us and badmouth us. Then expect we wont do anything about it when all diplomacy seems to break down. I was AGAIN very level headed and told em they can get CF. From the start of this. They come here and cry, cause we hit them, when they want to EoA us and started all of it. I seriously dont get any of this.

CF offer still stands.... We continue to hit til we get it.

Peace out

EDIT: And yes, i gave my steward a lot of **** for what happend here and i still am giving him **** for it! heehhhh

[Tedurur]

He quadhit for 900 acres from them before exploring him. He also explored for a few more ticks after we doubled him. His end result said 7.6k acres but he got hit by another KD once for about 700a putting him down at 6.9k acres to sum it up.

Strange, by your math he lost 0a to LL yet I alone gained 400a from him. Guess it must be some bug. Good thing bishop is in the thread so that he can correct it ; ).
Also: it's a shame to hear that you don't have council issues. Could have explained why you ended up with such a complete failure as steward. Seeing how he will be running SIMIANS next age i forsee a lot of problems for the your current KD mates. Out of curiosity, why won't you lead SIMIANS next age?

[Anri]

Strange, by your math he lost 0a to LL yet I alone gained 400a from him. Guess it must be some bug. Good thing bishop is in the thread so that he can correct it ; ).
Also: it's a shame to hear that you don't have council issues. Could have explained why you ended up with such a complete failure as steward. Seeing how he will be running SIMIANS next age i forsee a lot of problems for the your current KD mates. Out of curiosity, why won't you lead SIMIANS next age?

Leadership details will not be discussed here. If you indeed did LL for 400a then he should have hit 8000a but since you did 400a LL he ended on 7.6k before getting hit. He was still putting in newly explored acres when i went to bed. I did not stay awake to see what he took in the end. I checked KD page and news. I cant really see when you do LL or who you make it on. Unless i monitore KD page every hour ;-)

I will be gone for some days soon for my wedding. Then a few days next age when i move to a newly bought house. Thats about it. Leader of Simians will always be me. Who is ingame monarch/steward change from time to time. We have high requirements and compitent people around to lead the KD if i am away or slacking ;-)

[Tedurur]

Leadership details will not be discussed here. If you indeed did LL for 400a then he should have hit 8000a but since you did 400a LL he ended on 7.6k before getting hit. He was still putting in newly explored acres when i went to bed. I did not stay awake to see what he took in the end. I checked KD page and news. I cant really see when you do LL or who you make it on. Unless i monitore KD page every hour ;-)

I will be gone for some days soon for my wedding. Then a few days next age when i move to a newly bought house. Thats about it. Leader of Simians will always be me. Who is ingame monarch/steward change from time to time. We have high requirements and compitent people around to lead the KD if i am away or slacking ;-)

Yeah, then you probably shouldn't have your steward telling people that he will lead SIMIANS the next age ;-)

[Anri]

Yeah, then you probably shouldn't have your steward telling people that he will lead SIMIANS the next age ;-)

Like i said. Leadership will not be discussed in here. And yes, he should not be going around saying that.

[zmasternr1]

It all sounds very good and convincing Anri. You practically begged us to let you be merciful and give us CF. After we started the conflict by hitting into your kd.

February 11 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love sand rig and captured 656 acres of land.
February 13 of YR12 An unknown province from Evil Dragons captured 535 acres of land <----ED retal
February 19 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love sand rig and captured 265 acres of land.
February 19 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love sand rig and captured 404 acres of land.
February 22 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love is TaeYeon and captured 384 acres of land.
March 5 of YR12 Love sand rigcaptured 680 acres of land <----ED retal
March 7 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love sand rig and captured 488 acres of land.
March 7 of YR12 xxx ambushed armies from Love sand rig and took 340 acres of land.
March 22 of YR12 An unknown province from Evil Dragons captured 613 acres of land <---ED retal
March 22 of YR12 xxx invaded Love sand rig and captured 587 acres of land.
March 23 of YR12 An unknown province from Evil Dragons recaptured 293 acres of land <---ED retal
April 1 of YR12 An unknown province from Evil Dragons captured 439 acres of land <-ED retal

Razes begin:
April 3 of YR12 xxx razed 192 acres of Love Is Snoeps On Top
April 3 of YR12 xxx razed 158 acres of Love Is Snoeps On Top
April 3 of YR12 xxx razed 132 acres of Love Is Snoeps On Top
April 3 of YR12 xxx razed 110 acres of Love Is Snoeps On Top
April 3 of YR12 xxx razed 94 acres of Love Is Snoeps On Top
April 5 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Galvanised Lovelorn Fools and captured 294 acres of land.
April 5 of YR12 An unknown province from xxx invaded Love is tied up in my basement and captured 151 acres of land.

Few msg's sent by your steward:
post 1: "you just earned yourself to get razed you noob youre going to be down to 3k acres after we deal with one other province so train up defense"
post 2: "and i casted annon the mods will be adjusting that ambush back to my acres"
post 3: "dude gs wont even protect you, we are going to have a kingdomwide raze you... and theyre already looking into it, its goijng to be given back to me... and im going to take an extra 400 + acres off you and then my entire kingdom is razing you"
post 4: "lmao we arent going to stop with your province, we're going to raze down anyone over 600k nw as well enjoy!"
post 5: "lmao the mods are giving me back that ambush i just talked ot them which makes me +100 and in about 24 hours i can double tap your ass then you wont be retal warring because once we start farming your kingdom your monarch will want a cf and he will gimme free hits on you "
post 6: "no you die you n00b suck my big fat one you legit are the biggest n00b ive ever met"

*steward should be happy I didn't report his last message. It was a tad over the top...