Blackmail for cf's...

[baka]

When did that happen last? In current history, non-abs taking the crown is still rare. Non-abs taking the top three is non-existent. So it happening without any regularity to me, is failure.

You best look at the rankings then. The #1 spot between abs and non-abs has been very even.

[DHaran]

Stick to moderating. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. The moderator star does not make you any more credible.

I agree with most of what Palem said. Make your own argument against what he stated rather than an empty comment with no substance.

[Palem]

Stick to moderating. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. The moderator star does not make you any more credible.

And playing with flogger doesn't make up for the fact that you've accomplished just as much as me on your own. Unlike you I'm not really a fan of piggybacking success.
*shrugs*

Actually they are doing it, just make it "proper" to can keep his image more clean.

Oh no! They're making crappy kds that can't compete with them crappy offers so they have an opportunity farm acres from them which is the whole point of them playing?! How dare those scoundrels actually give a damn and try to win unlike 99% of the rest of the server.

It's called diplo Elit and it's something you're not very good at. Instead of complaining that Abs are trying to push through more beneficial deals than you are trying to get, why not try to some good deals of your own worked out? Especially considering the fact that it was MA vs Abs for most of the age, I'm SURE there would have been kds willing to bend a little bit because of their blind hatred for abs.

People spend more time QQ'ing like a bunch of little school-kids instead of acting.

^This is fact. Don't like something? Do something about it.

@Palem You need to get your butt on IRC.

Yes I do, but I'm extremely, wtf-levels of crazy busy for like the next 3 weeks =\

[DHaran]

And playing with flogger doesn't make up for the fact that you've accomplished just as much as me on your own. Unlike you I'm not really a fan of piggybacking success.
*shrugs*

Daaaaamn lol

[flutterby]

Yes I do, but I'm extremely, wtf-levels of crazy busy for like the next 3 weeks =\

But I miss you.

[Elit]

It's called diplo Elit and it's something you're not very good at. Instead of complaining that Abs are trying to push through more beneficial deals than you are trying to get, why not try to some good deals of your own worked out? Especially considering the fact that it was MA vs Abs for most of the age, I'm SURE there would have been kds willing to bend a little bit because of their blind hatred for abs.
^This is fact. Don't like something? Do something about it.

I'm doing diplo last 20 ages in top kds Palem, and I'm very good on it. This age AMA did all much better from all abs+hoh kds. Its include planing, growing,diplo,hostile-wars. Only reason why AMA is not n1 is ABS double hostile us. ABS did it because can make it for free. Its show from one side ABS low moral from other how bad is when there is no more good kds for compete. Don't put blame on me for doing all what is possible to give fair and legit competition in top this age.

I have feeling you are biased in your opinion because you cant forget our hostile last age. Don't forget there is not other kd who had balls and skills to make what we did. Give us respect for well play and don't hate for it. If you want to comment do it objective.

[AquaSeaFoam]

Non-Abs winning happens still regular. If you look back say 10 ages:
....
Seems pretty even between Abs and non-abs ?

Yeah, I think that this is pretty in line with what you'd expect given the competition. If 3 or 4 of the best kingdoms are considered "Abs" and there are only 3 or 4 others of comparable ability that go for the top, then it seems about right that about half of the recent wins would be an "Abs" affiliated kingdom. Part of the trouble is some people tend to ignore the kingdom and focus on the tag/affiliation.

Flogger, Elit is a "win big or quit" kind of player; it was his choice to not stay a top competitor after he didn't feel he could win #1 anymore. Had Havoc let him dodge them at the time and train up on all his pool, he knew he had the age won as he's stated here many times and this is what he wanted. He had the option to just cf sanc in post war or even after 3 sanc provinces had robbed him out of his war, but that wasn't what he choose. After he warred Havoc once, Havoc and his kingdom finished war equal size. If he just warred Havoc again, he could have still been a #1 competitor even when Havoc beat him, but instead he would rather go for mutual destruction (although this still left Havoc as a #1 competitor, just not him.)

Elit, It's rarely Abs starting the so called "slander talk", it's you jumping in every thread trying to attack Abs (and you did it before this age too, so you can't blame your talk on Sanc/Havoc.) As for Pew, you're wrong again. They first vultured sanc who was the first kingdom in the 90% range. Rage was the next smallest and it is due to this range that pew agreed to fight them if Rage gave them all the time they wanted to prepare. It was certainly no "block" and I'm sure Havoc or HOH would have been happy to fight Pew had they been in range and not occupied.

[PhoenixScorpion]

Age 48.

Non-Abs winning happens still regular. If you look back say 10 ages:

Age 47: Sanctuary of Absalom
Age 48: OldSkool(NW) / Pulse(Land)
Age 49: Fratzia
Age 50: Dreams
Age 51: HaLL of Heroes
Age 52: Rage of Absalom
Age 53: BiO
Age 54: HaLL of Heroes
Age 55: Beastblood
Age 56: Sanctuary of Absalom


Seems pretty even between Abs and non-abs ?

Pretty small sample size. Also I think she was referring to AABS actual ability to organize, win AWAR's, etc. So far yes I would call the movement a failure...

So why all the constant QQ and BS?

Did I hit a soft spot?

Please. Your the one that got all butthurt because I told people to do less QQ'ing and man up and play and stop acting like a bunch of sissies. Seems your the one that soft spot got hit. I could really care less what you or anyone else thinks, just hilarious watching you make excuses for failure and blame the other guy instead of your own actions. Just getting tired of seeing a bunch of males conduct themselves like a group of schoolgirls. If people spent as much time planning, executing, and organizing as they did QQ'ing all over the forums they wouldnt have so much to QQ about. Funny no one was talking to you or directed anything at BB yet you wanna stand on your soapbox and defend what?

[Elit]

AquaSeaFoam, you are posting nonsense again. How i told you Havoc+Sanctuary did all ****s but Rage is going to pay main bill for it because you and Proteus don't know when to stop your crap talk and admit your alliance mates was wrong.

[fuzzy|]

@ PhoenixScorpion <-- you're hardly 1 to talk about QQ / BS on here.

[PhoenixScorpion]

@ PhoenixScorpion <-- you're hardly 1 to talk about QQ / BS on here.

Please. I dont QQ about ****. I might interject and talk crap to people because they are so easy to get riled up. Other than that I dont post much. Quite easy to see what I post, spoiler alert.

[protector]

Pretty small sample size. Also I think she was referring to AABS actual ability to organize, win AWAR's, etc. So far yes I would call the movement a failure...

More bull**** huh. Let me quote what she said, where does it say anything about awars or organizing?
"When did that happen last? In current history, non-abs taking the crown is still rare. Non-abs taking the top three is non-existent. So it happening without any regularity to me, is failure."

Small sample size? 10 ages over a period of 2+ years not enough?

Please. Your the one that got all butthurt because I told people to do less QQ'ing and man up and play and stop acting like a bunch of sissies. Seems your the one that soft spot got hit. I could really care less what you or anyone else thinks, just hilarious watching you make excuses for failure and blame the other guy instead of your own actions. Just getting tired of seeing a bunch of males conduct themselves like a group of schoolgirls. If people spent as much time planning, executing, and organizing as they did QQ'ing all over the forums they wouldnt have so much to QQ about. Funny no one was talking to you or directed anything at BB yet you wanna stand on your soapbox and defend what?

So because I post something does it directly have to do with a kd I play in? I replied to you because I get tired reading all your crap on the forum recently. I'll just leave it at that

[Proteus]

AquaSeaFoam, you are posting nonsense again. How i told you Havoc+Sanctuary did all ****s but Rage is going to pay main bill for it because you and Proteus don't know when to stop your crap talk and admit your alliance mates was wrong.

We already pay the 'main bill' for whatever imaginary slights you might have experience from other kingdoms. You doubled us in age 51 and vultured us from 50% size advantage this age. In spite of all your efforts we still happen to do well. Its funny that you are threatening us with dirty play when you have already been doing it to us for quite some time.

[flutterby]

Age 48.

Non-Abs winning happens still regular. If you look back say 10 ages:

Age 47: Sanctuary of Absalom
Age 48: OldSkool(NW) / Pulse(Land)
Age 49: Fratzia
Age 50: Dreams
Age 51: HaLL of Heroes
Age 52: Rage of Absalom
Age 53: BiO
Age 54: HaLL of Heroes
Age 55: Beastblood
Age 56: Sanctuary of Absalom


Seems pretty even between Abs and non-abs ?

HoH... is considered an Abs win by the majority. And how many times have non-abs kds dominate the top 3? Not just the crown.

Please. I dont QQ about ****. I might interject and talk crap to people because they are so easy to get riled up. Other than that I dont post much. Quite easy to see what I post, spoiler alert.

Who cares who's crying... go buy some tissues... gtf over it already. Can't you stay on topic? Is it really that difficult.

[Persain]

Idk, how many times has Abs failed to crown? Last time I can recall an honest anti-abs push was Age 50 (I think) and that worked out well for them with Dreams crowning.

failing to crown is only because they dont routinely GB their competition. If as Elit suggests that were to change they'd win every age hands down no competition. If u read below the last time abs didn't horribly dominate was age 50/51 when there was a serious anti abs push. I guess that's what it takes to compete, a bunch of kds dedicated to specifcally countering them instead of a few un-allied kds trying for land.

HoH... is considered an Abs win by the majority. And how many times have non-abs kds dominate the top 3? Not just the crown.

Theres consistently been >3 abs+hoh kds so y not look at top 5.

AGE: # of abs+hoh in top 5 (using land)
Age 47:4
Age 48:1
Age 49:3
Age 50:0
Age 51:2
Age 52:4
Age 53:3
Age 54:3
Age 55:4
Age 56:4
Age 57:4 (100k acre lead aint changing from this)

so 3 ages out of the past 11 they didnt hold the majority of the top 5.
over the past 6 ages every one of them has placed top 5 every age. I'd say thats domination. Sure they might not win each age but every one of your kds placing in the top 5 for 6 ages in a row is epic win.

Who cares though "winning" only matters to a few kds and most of them have the abs tag, the only reason to go above 100k or so acres is to try to war ABS or crown so to all the people who QQ about farming acres or strange CF deals all i have to say is stop growing or learn to diplo better.