Cats vs Legacy

[Loiso]

well, im not following this war very closely but from how it looks now... Legacy is ~60k acres lead which worth up to 4.2m NW (assuming all acres built which is unlikely so prolly less). NW difference between 2 KDs is 4.2m. So as i see it, SPGC (at best case for them) are even with Legacy atm, or (which is more likely) are somewhat behind. Ofc this is an estimation, there are more things to take into account, but it doesnt look to me that SPGC have to wd now.

[brickwolfman]

Is a good war to end age.....

[DDodge]

This thread delivers.

Great war analysis and strategy discussed from both sides and then fawk shared an excellent terminator ritual that we can all try and then we had to put him on suicide watch but its ok everyone is here to be supportive.

[fawk]

News from the last 2 days:
1. Legacy up by 15,000 acres in 2 days.. wtf? (looks like they stopped massing and went for land these 2 days)
2. NW gap widened to 4.5 mil.
3. Legacy bounce waved SPGC halfling, and 1 of their avians has now hit him 3 times for 1000 acres each hit. The halfling is going down.
4. Both kingdoms have a dragon (SPGC have gold, Legacy have sapphire)

Legacy:
172,000 acres
5 princes, 4 dukes
19,6840,000 nw
Sapphire dragon

SPGC:
103,000 acres
0 princes, 1 duke
15,000,000 nw
Gold dragon

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from June 1 of YR14 till July 24 of YR14 - 48 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]


** Summary **
Total attacks made: 349 (72,200 acres)
-- Traditional march: 270 (67,157 acres)
-- Ambush: 18 (5,006 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (37 acres)
-- Massacre: 7 (24,104 population)
-- Learn: 27
-- Failed: 26 (7.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 103
Total attacks suffered: 245 (57,353 acres)
-- Traditional march: 199 (55,721 acres)
-- Ambush: 5 (1,632 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (615 acres)
-- Massacre: 21 (18,681 population)
-- Learn: 8
-- Failed: 11 (4.5% failure)
-- Uniques: 72

** The kingdom of Legacy **
Total land exchanged: +14,847 (349/245)
+6,997 Triassic (20 [5]/1)
+3,807 __Cenoz0ic__ (9 [4]/0)
+3,524 xxxx (21 [5]/11)
+2,906 -_Plicene_ (22 [5]/1)
+1,637 E_cene (20 [4]/6)
+1,484 III_0rdovician__ (20 [4]/43)
+1,309 O0Silurian0O (13 [2]/0)
+834 HOl0cene (9 [2]/0)
+646 ___Permian_____ (20 [5]/14)
+398 __Pale0gene__ (6 [2]/0)
+229 __Quaternary_ (12 [9]/0)
- Pale0z0ic_ (16 [16]/0)
- Ne0gene (4 [4]/0)
- Dev00Onian-- (4 [2]/0)
-104 Paleocene (15 [3]/22)
-248 _Phaner0zOic_ (22 [5]/18)
-377 -__-Precambrian-__- (24 [6]/23)
-460 Mes0zOic (24 [5]/18)
-594 Pennsylvania__ (20 [4]/24)
-939 Paleoproterozoic (17 [4]/15)
-1,348 Mississippian (20 [4]/25)
-1,845 PleistOcene (1 [1]/14)
-3,624 __0Cambrian0__ (10 [2]/10)


** The kingdom of SPGC **
Total land exchanged: -14,847 (245/349)
+2,021 Hate this KD (13 [4]/6)
+1,971 let me cook something for you (13 [4]/2)
+1,924 An unknown province (8/0)
+1,799 Mama Bear (20 [4]/27)
+1,744 AModernMajorGeneral (4 [3]/0)
+1,032 Baby Bear (20 [4]/18)
+505 The Drug in us split the Earth (2 [2]/0)
+455 Swoop (3 [3]/2)
+375 Unlimited Blade Works (9 [3]/6)
+348 ManiacaL AppetitE (10 [4]/6)
+336 Organic Rankine Cycle (14 [3]/18)
+321 Yog-Sothoth is the gate (3 [1]/0)
+291 Cheezy Pidgeon Salade (13 [4]/3)
+226 White Face Barghast (13 [3]/13)
- THC (16 [4]/1)
-363 AppetiticaL ManiaC (15 [3]/55)
-883 Kristen Bell (0/2)
-1,095 Papa Bear (15 [3]/16)
-1,151 Korean Kristen Bell (15 [7]/14)
-2,301 Shangri la (7 [2]/24)
-3,635 Mantiscles Appeniacs (0/19)
-5,925 Chewbroca (13 [4]/37)
-5,972 ACgsmd (9 [3]/45)
-6,255 UGotMosquitoBiteBoobsAnyway (10 [4]/35)

As i said in a previous thread, Legacy now have 5 Unbreakable, Prince rank, Thief/Mages (all over 1mil nw)
With SPGC big halfling going down, it seems any t/m advantage they might have had is completely gone.
SPGC 2 big faeries still stand, and have gained some land, but it's hard to imagine those 2 faeries will be enough to make a difference.
At this point i do not see any way for SPGC to recover.

Elurin?

[ideaotic]

News from the last 2 days

Latest update. SPGC are left with one bank. Big halfer suffered heavy army and peasantry losses after a wave of bounce hits. One of the big faery has been AW enough to be FBed by T/M and sits now under 20k pazz.

[fawk]

Latest update. SPGC are left with one bank. Big halfer suffered heavy army and peasantry losses after a wave of bounce hits. One of the big faery has been AW enough to be FBed by T/M and sits now under 20k pazz.

Nice. Smart thinking AW their faeries and then fireballing.
I noticed their big faery drop to 140 nwp/a.
Without peasants on those faeries they will be in trouble.

Edit:
NW different is at 4.8 mil.. it's continues to widen at a crazy rate.

[idiocy]

Still think Cats Faeries are going to be impossible to take down in any timely fashion, and their economy is going to be able to fund dragons extensively. That isn't enough for Cats to call themselves winner, but their economic output for the acres/nw they're holding is counting for more than Legacy's. Nice move taking down the heffer though.

I think I'm vindicated when I say, Halfer got a nerf this age. Last age Halfer was a beast, this age they can't attack for crap due to the gains penalty, and their superthief role is weakened by the crap nw on their elite. Paying 33% more for their crappier elites hurts even more.

[moogle]

That isn't enough for Cats to call themselves winner, but their economic output for the acres/nw they're holding is counting for more than Legacy's.

That's bull, lol

[idiocy]

That's bull, lol

So you think Faeries with a lot of peasants and access to tog are economically inferior, point for point?

If Legacy's fat Avians are sitting on a lot of peasants, I'd have probably read about it by now in all the counter-propaganda you guys are writing.

I'm kinda rooting for Legacy actually, just because I like upsets and outsiders trashtalk people who aren't Cats too much for my liking.

[DM_Benjamin]

I have a morning ritual that I need to share. I call it "the terminator". First I crouch down in the shower in the classic "naked terminator traveling through time" pose.

With my eyes closed I crouch there for a minute, visualizing either Arnold or the guy from the second movie (not the chick in the third one because that one sucked) and I start to hum the terminator theme. Then I slowly rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me to proceed through my day as an emotionless, cyborg badass. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my terminator leg. It ruins the fantasy.

I found tonight that it is more successful to progressively humm it louder as you perform the ritual.

I agree with realest on this, fawk has bad ass posts. see above.

better than that stupid silltalk.

gl to both kds also

[Spuzz]

So you think Faeries with a lot of peasants and access to tog are economically inferior, point for point?

If Legacy's fat Avians are sitting on a lot of peasants, I'd have probably read about it by now in all the counter-propaganda you guys are writing.

I'm kinda rooting for Legacy actually, just because I like upsets and outsiders trashtalk people who aren't Cats too much for my liking.

He isn't saying a feary with lots of peasants isn't good... he is saying that cats having a better econ isn't true ------ Peasants: 17736

[Hate33]

they only have 1 faery left and he is on ~70-75 BE

they can't win this war. and they are going down more and more every day. it was over day 3, but they are still stalling for time to the end of age .. probably so they can say they didn't lose another war ..

[idiocy]

He isn't saying a feary with lots of peasants isn't good... he is saying that cats having a better econ isn't true ------ Peasants: 17736

I stand corrected. good game.

[moogle]

So you think Faeries with a lot of peasants and access to tog are economically inferior, point for point?

If Legacy's fat Avians are sitting on a lot of peasants, I'd have probably read about it by now in all the counter-propaganda you guys are writing.

I'm kinda rooting for Legacy actually, just because I like upsets and outsiders trashtalk people who aren't Cats too much for my liking.

lol, ya, that's what I was getting at. I doubt <20k pezzies faery w/ tog has better income than me.
(: prince helps ;)

[Avalanche]

they only have 1 faery left and he is on ~70-75 BE

they can't win this war. and they are going down more and more every day. it was over day 3, but they are still stalling for time to the end of age .. probably so they can say they didn't lose another war ..

We don't do that, we never have.
We just like to fight longer than other kingdoms might. We're the Sakuraba of utopia kds