Evil Dragons...

[silverfox]

Damn we ARE bad... I have no clue how we beat you..twice.

War 1: 4 more provs and far bigger.
War 2: We had no way to remove econ and too many idiots who didn't protect from prop.

We lost war 2 through stupidity, only focusing 1 prov in hostile while letting others pump & the above, you didn't win it via good tactics as you had pretty much sweet FA.

I understand it's probably hard for you to grasp so I'll just leave you with your illusions.

[Parth]

I obviously knew this would surface on the forums at some point. Truth is, we follow our own ethics all while we hold moral as an important thingy. I can justify our actions, and you will probably find a way to flame it. The thing we dont like about landdropping, which Im sure has been explained before, is that its used to fight KD's that you are not meant to fight. A good kd land drops to fight a bad kd. Its become a tool for people trying to get shortcuts to honor and warwins. This, I dont like and we obviously went as far as razekilling a province over it last age...and we're not the first.
[21:47] <Ironballs> think you can get enough honour to make #1 ?
[21:48] <Xaer> probably not
[21:48] <Xaer> some landdropping kd is #1 now
[21:49] <Ironballs> raze kills ? :P
[21:49] <Ironballs> oh it's one of those romanian kingdoms
[21:50] <Xaer> yeh
[21:50] <Ironballs> you have to kill a bunch of them :P
[21:50] <Ironballs> cause stupid land dropping romanians must never be allowed to win anything
[21:51] <Xaer> personally i don't really care about #1
[21:51] <Ironballs> it's not about getting #1
[21:51] <Ironballs> it's about land dropping romanians not getting #1

Those logs are likely closer to ten years old, Xaer was andn00bs and IB I dunno...Wrath maybe? Some really great kingdoms, and it humbles me to go in their footstep. That said, I claim the situation with havoc is different. They are not trying to war ghettos, unless you call the best warring kd's ghettos. They drop to go from whoring to warring, and I dont have any ethical objections to that. So thats that for me.

Parth man, you guy's were very balls-to-the-walls when you caught us land dropping! Without continuously exercising your Utopian Policing effort, other KDs WILL NOT take you serious!!! This is not like you and will only hinder your ability to take control and execute punitive action in the future! Word around the grapevine is that your old co-monarch (Zauper/HAVOC), the one who started the vendetta to RK us, just land-dropped! Silverfox will agree with me, as he is a board member on the Utopian Ethics Council. Actions speak louder than words!

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War 1: 4 more provs and far bigger.
War 2: We had no way to remove econ and too many idiots who didn't protect from prop.

We lost war 2 through stupidity, only focusing 1 prov in hostile while letting others pump & the above, you didn't win it via good tactics as you had pretty much sweet FA.

I understand it's probably hard for you to grasp so I'll just leave you with your illusions.

Oh, I thought we were the only terrible ones! PHEW!

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TThat said, I claim the situation with havoc is different. They are not trying to war ghettos, unless you call the best warring kd's ghettos. They drop to go from whoring to warring, and I dont have any ethical objections to that. So thats that for me.

Damn are you a mind reader? How did you know exactly what we were thinking?? IF that IS the case...maybe you should have won one of the wars?

Also..all of a sudden when havoc drops.. they are trying to war the best warring kds? I thought that all those playing for WW crown is irrelevent/garbage? All the kds out of top 5 are bad; is that not the concensus of the community!?!!??

[SillyRabbit]

And Silverfox dont forget that they should stop cheating to get warwins as well!

Coming from a player in the kingdom who waved us for 15k acres during our war with Pew that secured top spot for a few weeks. Classic!

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Why do you even bother responding to Korp? I thought everyone just ignores him now.

[Korp]

Coming from a player in the kingdom who waved us for 15k acres during our war with Pew that secured top spot for a few weeks. Classic!

Thats not cheating thou and you could have easily avoided that situation as well. That could at most be considered as dirty play.

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Thats not cheating thou and you could have easily avoided that situation as well. That could at most be considered as dirty play.

You should take the right hand seat beside Silverfox on his Utopian Ethics Council. So enlightening.

[Korp]

Why do you even bother responding to Korp? I thought everyone just ignores him now.

You should take the right hand seat beside Silverfox on his Utopian Ethics Council. So enlightening.

:) Hilarious, ethics in Utopia is rather boring, more mayhem imo.

[Parth]

This was weak, even for you. So if there was nothing more you Strippers scum wanted, maybe you all should zip it for a bit, rest up until you can think of some witty trash talk again. Current topic is hostility between ED & Bob.

Damn are you a mind reader? How did you know exactly what we were thinking?? IF that IS the case...maybe you should have won one of the wars?

Also..all of a sudden when havoc drops.. they are trying to war the best warring kds? I thought that all those playing for WW crown is irrelevent/garbage? All the kds out of top 5 are bad; is that not the concensus of the community!?!!??

[SillyRabbit]

So far we've only managed to raze kill one land dropper

land dropping for honour charts is a strat so is killing people who are rivals and wont fight you in a 1v1.

We've razekilled provs already this age, and we'll do it to you if we ever find you and you run away from us.

And the razekill was quite honorable! Probably 1k honor's worth to the prov. That's what happens to kingdoms that landdrop and renege on war deals with us.

It is true we have razekilled earlier this age. We found a kd in good size for a war, messaged them with an inquiry and they said they wanted to think about it and get back to us. Some 2-3 days later, we found that they had been landdropping by asking someone to raze them a bit. They declined to war us with the motivation 'You are too big for us'. We look down on land dropping, and we look down on bull****ting like this. We decided to kill one of their provinces to teach them a lesson about this before moving on. We gained nothing from this razekill, it was just a statement. Dont be land dropping ghetto bashers!

We've razekilled one other province in one other kingdom for lying to us and land-dropping. The use of multiples is unnecessary at this point. We play our way, and we aren't afraid of enforcing our ethical code on others.

Like I explained in an earlier post in this thread, we have razekilled one guy this age. The reasoning behind this was described in my post, and it was more to it then them denying us a war.

but all land dropping is land dropping and it is all incredibly lame and worthy of a raze kill by itself. If you don't want the land, don't take it in the first place.

la la la....

[Korp]

Haha, Zauper got served. :)

[alan03]

Why does everyone in Strippers think ED hit you for land dropping?

We hit you for robbing into our EoWCF and being general dips**ts in the forums after our war. Also let me reiterate for a final time, your KD isn't good, your activity in war was garbage, you constantly overlapped ops and your nightmare "wave" was like 30 mins of idiocy where most of you lost all of your runes, infact I'm pretty sure the only thing you actually did decently was spam FB on attackers and prop run on our retards who refused to build WTs and have all been kicked now.

Maybe spend more time teaching your leadership what a notice means and less time being cheating asshats and you wouldn't be a laughing stock between the top KDs.

lol and you got beat twice... and once with a huge advantage after raze-killing an elf and being 25 v 23 and with a 120%+ network advantage

Ive heard this **** talking so many times from this ****ty kingdom.
So over it because they never actually do anything.

[zmasternr1]

lol and you got beat twice... and once with a huge advantage after raze-killing an elf and being 25 v 23 and with a 120%+ network advantage

Ive heard this **** talking so many times from this ****ty kingdom.
So over it because they never actually do anything.

1st war we came out even in gains despite fighting 18 vs 25 with a newly created kd at eoa...
2nd war we outhit you like 1200-800 and gained 7k acres + a lot of honor.

Tbh we are a much better kd, just had some old fashioned ways of fighting which has been corrected now.

[silverfox]

la la la....

I don't see a single thing in there which means anything except maybe the part you decided to put in bold.

Taking random text without context has zero use at all, I'm not even sure what point you're trying to argue. We don't like land dropping, we had our time wasted by a KD who land dropped out of range of us so we razed them and made mention of their land dropping, we had a grudge with you and mentioned your land dropping.

There's something called correlation doesn't imply causation, just because 2 KDs we raze killed provs in also land dropped doesn't mean that is the reason we did it, nor does it mean we're going to run around stopping every KD from land dropping (or even caring if they do).

I really don't know how to make it any clearer than this, so if you don't get it by now I'm just going to have to assume you don't want to get it because you'd rather just post stupid stuff thinking you're winning some style points or you're just not intelligent enough to understand what's being explained to you.

lol and you got beat twice... and once with a huge advantage after raze-killing an elf and being 25 v 23 and with a 120%+ network advantage

Ive heard this **** talking so many times from this ****ty kingdom.
So over it because they never actually do anything.

Depends how you view it, if you think wasting a load of offence and sitting under MS for a few real days while everyone else in your KD is free to pump the length of time you asked to prepare, is an advantage then I'd say you have no idea what you're talking about.

Not going to deny that we were in a better position before hostile, we also raped you for 8k acres because your activity was terrible. Can't change the past but you can learn from it, if we'd just overpopped you in hostile, we'd have won, if we'd had a way to remove econ and damage your T/M we'd have won, hell if we'd had WTs instead of eating full prop waves without fail on our idiot Halfer Prince then we'd have probably won.

Remind me what Strippers have done, besides being thought of as trash by most KDs (getting yourselves mass razed 2 ages in a row), cheating to get war wins then bragging about "crowning" and had to break deals all age to backstab KDs?

PS. I forgot to mention your friends KD just happened to "randomly" OOW raze us, so our war was 2v1 in your favour.