If pewpew is any good why dont they just war AMA for crown? I think pew is only able to grow in vacuum but aren't able to fight any good kingdoms..they ran from Rage last age even though wemade a deal to war but got mad that I played it out to get more acres. Seriously if you want to win why not fight AMA or BB for it?
The same reason Rage didn't war Sanc when they were #1 and #2
I think people need to stop underestimating Elit. All this talk about what he would have done blah blah but not once has anyone actually been straight up with him. How does everyone know what he would do if there weren't rats sneaking around behind his back.
It's a world of rats and snakes, sometimes if you play the rat the snake will eat you. How about we try and be ****en human beings for a change, see how that works out!
Won't stop being butthurt even after retiring?Originally Posted by Proteus
BB understandably refused to war us as their size distribution is a lot weaker than ours as of now. I would refuse also in their position.
Orc merchants are quite weak late age versus dwarf tacts and we are 40k smaller. No real chances to beat AMA 1v1. War could have maybe been setup if AMA didnt take 15k from us by hitting strippers into war, but not now. We would have been similar size and had a bank advantage to offset the late age orc merchant.
All the people telling allies to war every age have no idea about anything. Setups and eoanaps are made with the sole purpose of beating the primary competition (ABS) which was accomplished. If we didn't go orc merchants and went something more late age centered like human sage or dwarf tact, we would have likely lost versus sanc's dwarf merchants in that OOP war and entire age would be different as sanc would be able to bully our allies early age with a strong early/mid age setup.
Almost all the crap this age wouldn't have happened if the ages were made to be shorter, like YR8.
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pew pew. Absolutely none of my nubs speak for my kingdom.
Playing in HoH we used Orc a lot. I think Orc Merchant is one of the strongest orcs in quite some time since they nerfed the elites. There should be no reason not to have respectable sciences especially in gains and population by now......extra 40% credits, good income, great gains.... What else would you need lol.
Poor province management and planning if you think your provinces don't stand a chance vs Dorf Tact. Poor kd set up choices can't be blamed on anyone but the kd's running them. Give me a break you did it for the alliance :p Pew Pew reminds me of a ****ty version of HoH around 7-8 ages ago.
Pulse age 48, HoH age 54 Orc crown winners.
I think you're underplaying the importance of economy and science late game. Your examples exclude circumstances and environment under which they crowned.
Give me your Orc merchant and I'll show you how to properly run one.
Pumping sciences whether your an Orc or a Dwarf at some point in the age is proper province management when competing late age. If you have under 1500-2k bpa with an Orc Merchant this age u suck plain and simple. I've never had under 1500 bpa even using an Orc Warrior or Orc Tactician. Orcs aren't the easiest race to play with the bad economy maybe Pew Pew should stick to an easier race/pers like Human merchant
What are you talking about alan? You are making your own little thread within the thread?
You are confusing.
It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it.
This.
Don't backstab and betray allies and maybe you'll get your clean war.
Because binbin4crown.
duh.
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Greatest strategy thread/question of all-time.
Spew spew and AMA are not allied.
Please stop just venturing guesses and presenting them as facts from on high.
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I'll McGovern you up, son. Wait, you know who McGovern was, right?
My only comment is both of you two are reaching historic levels of being terrible at diplom, there's no reason either of you shouldn't have hashed it out a month ago, and if you couldn't do it yourself, I woulda been happy to tell you who was being the idiot. One age of trying to out farm people isn't worth the general reaming you're all going to experience once abs takes advantage of the discord.
I'm not but hurt, you guys were the ones who embarassed yourselves last age, I never had someone reset themselves to avoid farming out before so it was fun to witness.
You guys run Orc every single age, doesn't even seem like any strategy going on there when you consistently pick one of the worse races for competing in the top at any point in the age. Your weakness as a kingdom is whoever does strats and setups does not have a solid understanding of prov and game mechanics as I have said before. Last age you were surprised by how much science we had and accused us of "hiding" it by not investing which is a common strat, you could have easily estimated our bpa and not been surprised even if we didnt show it.
And if you picked Orc merc with the goal of beating Abs your goal was essentially to be the cannon fodder for AMA/BB this age rather than have any realistic chance of winning, a choice you yourself made.
so to sum this up Proteus:
crown4binbin ?
Snakes
PewPEW
Divinity
Emeriti
Non of my nubs speak for my KD
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