Why is pew pew so mad

[DHaran]

Let's all raze AMA and PP just for having stupid ass kingdom names.

[fuzzy|]

.....Orc merchants are quite weak late age versus dwarf tacts.....Almost all the crap this age wouldn't have happened if the ages were made to be shorter, like YR8.

So you would war them early in the age when you have the upperhand but not later on when they supposidly have the upperhand? game should change to suit your needs?

[Binar]

we would still pwn your silly UD/Orc setup Fuzzy :)

[StratOcastle]

Let's all raze AMA and PP just for having stupid ass kingdom names.

I'm glad someone here believes in good kingdom names, but I'll give both a pass on cute. ;-)
Guess it's an easier pill to swallow when kingdoms with cute names are practitioners of violence.

[MrCurious]

we would still pwn your silly UD/Orc setup Fuzzy :)

Binar, you are taking the role that Rage had over you last age. You are in a good position due to having CFs with all worthy opponents, and now you spend the rest of the age hitting kds way below your position. Do me a favor and stop acting like its a big accomplishment fighting our kd via a double hostile. We hold 0 advantages. You have superior science, wpa and you have banks thanks to your aabs alliance which you later left - so yes you would pwn our "silly" ud/orc core setup.

Im amazed you forget so easily. You were quick to throw rocks at Proteus last age for being a bully and prolong a hostile when he had all the cards in his deck, but now that you're top dog, you act just like he/they did.

If you had kept out of range you would have had your eoa secured - instead you accepted his war offer and grew into range. If you hadn't, you would not be faced with having to mass reset like you did.
Atleast you had a choice, we didn't.

[Lurking Ghost]

So you would war them early in the age when you have the upperhand but not later on when they supposidly have the upperhand? game should change to suit your needs?

Well game has become bad because it's no real fighting going on, the costs are enormous and that's why things are happening like they are. Bigger kds get exponentially stronger with the amount of time they are bigger, that means smaller kds are further and further behind for every day of the game.

It's all about what kind of game we want, to me it's obvious nobody likes the drama right now. But it is because of a reason.
Perhaps the exploration formula should be affected by relative kd size aswell or something, because smaller kds don't have a chance later in the age.
But the easiest thing would be to get double amount of players. Perhaps even decrease size of kingdoms...

[fuzzy|]

.....It's all about what kind of game we want, to me it's obvious nobody likes the drama right now.....

drama because 50% of those that still play this game have low standards / ethics and will do anything to win while 49% play for fun + fairly and 1% play to keep accounts alive.

there is very little honour / respect for others left in this game.

its becoming worse and worse each age because those leaders that play with honour have left..... and as so we're left with fewer leaders who play fairly and so are poor at this game they can only win by using underhand tactics as a pose to doing things in the right way (again lack of game knowledge).

[Bourreau]

its becoming worse and worse each age because those leaders that play with honour have left..... and as so we're left with fewer leaders who play fairly and so are poor at this game they can only win by using underhand tactics as a pose to doing things in the right way (again lack of game knowledge).

Flogger is still playing. And if ABS gets back next age, honor and fair play should be better served :)

[Lurking Ghost]

drama because 50% of those that still play this game have low standards / ethics and will do anything to win while 49% play for fun + fairly and 1% play to keep accounts alive.

there is very little honour / respect for others left in this game.

its becoming worse and worse each age because those leaders that play with honour have left..... and as so we're left with fewer leaders who play fairly and so are poor at this game they can only win by using underhand tactics as a pose to doing things in the right way (again lack of game knowledge).

I think you re wrong, all the leaders are doing what they can, it doesn't matter who they are, wether it is AMA, ABS, PewPew or any other kd.
It's when it gets out here in the forums that it becomes black and white, but every leader knows this. No matter how hard you try to pay fair, you will get screwed one way or another.
And it isn't because others are "worse" than you, it's simply because some want to win, others don't and some want to troll, everyone has their motives.

Just take a look, friends become enemies, enemies become allies, and it's because the game gets devided into "islands" of similar kingdom pools and their ability to act is severely limited without enormous risks, so everyone does the best they can. They dodge, they go to war, they disband, they form alliances.
Game dynamics have been severely limited, and these happenings are a result of that. One wrong decision a kd leader makes, affects the kd too much at the end of the age, I believe it should not be that way.

[Elit]

Bigger kds get exponentially stronger with the amount of time they are bigger, that means smaller kds are further and further behind for every day of the game.

Its for 2 main reasons.
1. how work sci system. If you can buy books like in past you can stay on 500 acres and pump good sci for 3k acres but now if you spend alot time on 1k acres and grow to 3k your have zero chances vs provinces spend alot time on 3k.
2. Relation system is complete broken and lead to broken honor system. In past honor was balance for counter land. High honor kds can success fight vs much bigger kds but now its not possible because you cant gain real honor in hostile. Need to modify relation system similar to past with "declare hostile" make your honor gains from ops/hits better and "declare peace" prevent kds end trapped in war but loss all black ops/honor gains bonuses vs target kd.

[Soul_Hunter]

And after all the drama next age Absalom comes back, and AABs disbands :D

[Lurking Ghost]

Its for 2 main reasons.
1. how work sci system. If you can buy books like in past you can stay on 500 acres and pump good sci for 3k acres but now if you spend alot time on 1k acres and grow to 3k your have zero chances vs provinces spend alot time on 3k.
2. Relation system is complete broken and lead to broken honor system. In past honor was balance for counter land. High honor kds can success fight vs much bigger kds but now its not possible because you cant gain real honor in hostile. Need to modify relation system similar to past with "declare hostile" make your honor gains from ops/hits better and "declare peace" prevent kds end trapped in war but loss all black ops/honor gains bonuses vs target kd.

Yes I agree with you, you get punished very much for a misstake you make, or even if you meet an enemy that's better than you. In one war you re out of the game baisicly. I agree honor system is really dumb, it was better earlier because you could get it. But there was a problem that big kds had the honor, land and nw all at once.
I believe that the game is "slow" you need to devote a lot of time investing in siences, military etc in order to keep up. If the game was "faster" the misstakes wouldn't mean so much.

[Lurking Ghost]

And after all the drama next age Absalom comes back, and AABs disbands :D

One can say whatever they want. But Absalom gone is the best thing that happened to utopia.
Every set we had problems with them. And look what happened to Elit, and Mansoor.
Not to mention that once you had a deal with abs, the deal would change, one way or another, and it would never be in your favour.
Like Proteus said, nobody "vultures" his ally. No matter if it's 1 on 1. Abs get to decide what is a proper war and what is not, and they decided when to war and when not.
No thanks, no ABS, at least not in the way they were doing it.

[Elit]

Like Proteus said, nobody "vultures" his ally. No matter if it's 1 on 1.

Its why Simians is mad on AMA. If we don't hit SWEA its bad for not help ally, if we hit SWEA its unfair power play for them because after it "Simians can farm them fair in 1vs1".

[Lurking Ghost]

Its why Simians is mad on AMA. If we don't hit SWEA its bad for not help ally, if we hit SWEA its unfair power play for them because after it "Simians can farm them fair in 1vs1".

Well Elit, the choices ain't easy, and it's because there are no targets. And humans have emotions.
In the top, you loose the popularity contest ! There is no possible way to win that crown !