CR vs AMA

[Lurking Ghost]

You didnt hit pewpew when they were ****playing other and action thm for it. You did what benefits your kingdom, again the selective policing i refer to rather than playing by a determined set of morals consistently. You have just proven again how this gb is a joke as people are inconsistent in playing "fair" and put on their fairness hat when it suite them.

It's amuzing that you always try to find some way to blaim stuff on PewPew.
We aren't perfect, and we don't claim to be.

You on the other hand claim to be the worlds best kingdom, the best player in the world, and the most skillful/talented aswell.
When you do such a claim, life can get though because failing to live up to it makes stuff like these happen.

The facts are simple. Four sets in a row you've been manipulating all kingdoms closest to you, including your allies. (Selling allies, making secret deals, forcing other kds to do your dirty fightning, dealbreaking, powerplaying, pure straight bullying, making up lies about events, dragging kingdoms to forum and trashtalking them ). No wonder they are mad at you.

How many sets will it take for you to learn that you need to look at your own actions first, before playing the blaim game ? The blaim game hurts !

This age you warred us, 1vs1, you beat us, and we did nothing more than congratulate you. Still to this day you take every opportunity to drag our name into dirt and use every possible situation to twist the truth and chain of events. Perhaps if your kingdom treated other kingdoms with more respect none of this would ever happened.

You can't beat respect into another kingdom. You can only earn it.
If AMA wants respect, you should start doing what you claim to be doing in the forums. Peole see that what you say and what you do doesn't compute.

And for the record, I don't claim PewPew to be better or worse than any other kingdom here, that goes aswell for CR and AMA aswell.
Just that AMA says one thing and doing the complete opposite, which apparently many other kingdoms do not do.

[Fury]

I hope you don't plan on pretending you're an exception.

The 2v1 on AMA was justified when you were in ABS!

But now the dealbreak by AMA on a KD of 24 different people than were in Havoc is justified by that double hostile.

You're such a duplicitous twat.

+1 for making me look up twat, those things are nasty

[Tapout]

I care nought for top play nor charts, but if your intention was to try and show the rest of the server that you are all ‘righteous’ and ‘going to turn over a new-leaf’ then a mass GB on a KD that one of those involved in the GB backed into a corner is not exactly going to win you any favours as far as I’m concerned.

So AMA had CFs expiring with CR and Pyro at the same time, this is obviously not good and you could argue poorly organised on their behalf. They wanted to war Pyro not CR, so the obvious way for them around this was to negotiated a shortened CF with Pyro so they could war them so that CR couldn’t notice.

However CR effectively removed that option by stating very openly that they would hit into any war organised that way, or that was certainly how I read the below posts from Godly:

We will be noticing you Jan 1st and hitting you April 1st. What you choose to do is your own business. Those are the only cards we have and we will be playing them.

Meep, they have the exact same notice with Pyro. So unless they pull a Pew2 (which they chastised so much and I believe ultimately hit into that war) and reduce the notice time to enter a planned war to run away from the better kingdom, i seriously doubt they'll be in war April 1st. There's lots of ways this can play out, but hopefully AMA will work out some kind of deal prior to this. We really don't want to be "that kingdom."

Therefore what do you propose AMA do, accept a 2 v 1 or war interference because CR does not like AMA using Diplo to get themselves out of the problem they had? One could equally argue CR had organised poorly to be in a position where their only targets to hit were AMA...

I'm probably missing some timeline, but those are the bits that stick in my mind and nothing in this thread convinces me that this age or next age will be any change at all...

[Anri]

Chuck pull your head out your righteous ass please. You waved Pew Pew for a week deciding that a Player Ovenmitt shouldn't be able to play for pew pew, far more times then we waved you btw. Plus you guys were part of the 3 vs GB the last time and I suppose that had no bearing on the situation to add in calling us out?

You make it sound as if that GB was uncalled for!

It was not uncalled for, you deserved it maybe more then you deserve this one.
I do not understand the way you think. Like we ****played you when you ****played all of us and it makes us mad enough to GB you.

Also there was no terms regarding Ovenmitt could not come back to pewpew. As far as i know he did shortly after he had abandoned the prov. You first ask us why did you not treat pewpew the same way we treat you, then a few posts later you use it as if it was a bad thing to handle pewpew the way we did. How do you want it? Should we not have acted against pewpew? Or should we have been idle?

AMA you seriously put yourselfs into these situations and no matter what other kds you try to blame everyone is against you this time. You dealbroke and you suffer for it.
What else is there to it?

No one here forced you to dealbreak, also i think AMA was arrogant enough to think that no one will act, and its probably the main reason you waved, because you still think you are above everyone else.

[TommyB]

We will notice you and we will hit you as per our terms. We have made it very clear that was our intention. The alternative is you can work out a deal with us.

You may get to choose who you war but we equally get to choose who we notice, follow terms and commence hitting which I assure you we will do Elit.

So feel free to try and run, it won't get you far and we will still take your acres anyway.

@Tapout:
Did you mean this one? Yea that may sound a bit scary, alright.

I wouldn't be so concerned about the Godly quotes. Not sure about that Benjamin guy's authority but I had the impression his word has some weight in the kingdom?

[Fury]

You make it sound as if that GB was uncalled for!

It was not uncalled for, you deserved it maybe more then you deserve this one.
I do not understand the way you think. Like we ****played you when you ****played all of us and it makes us mad enough to GB you.

Also there was no terms regarding Ovenmitt could not come back to pewpew. As far as i know he did shortly after he had abandoned the prov. You first ask us why did you not treat pewpew the same way we treat you, then a few posts later you use it as if it was a bad thing to handle pewpew the way we did. How do you want it? Should we not have acted against pewpew? Or should we have been idle?

AMA you seriously put yourselfs into these situations and no matter what other kds you try to blame everyone is against you this time. You dealbroke and you suffer for it.
What else is there to it?

No one here forced you to dealbreak, also i think AMA was arrogant enough to think that no one will act, and its probably the main reason you waved, because you still think you are above everyone else.

No one was under the illusion that we werent going to be ganbanged.

If your wonderful coalition of justice is exactly what you are making it out to be - maybe its time to stop the TM's and exploring from certain kingdoms and acctually raze us? If it was really justice there shouldnt be any gains in there for the kds participating.

Also if we are really going to clean all slates maybe you should lead by example and stop trashtalking in every post.

Love and Peace

[Anri]

I care nought for top play nor charts, but if your intention was to try and show the rest of the server that you are all ?righteous? and ?going to turn over a new-leaf? then a mass GB on a KD that one of those involved in the GB backed into a corner is not exactly going to win you any favours as far as I?m concerned.

So AMA had CFs expiring with CR and Pyro at the same time, this is obviously not good and you could argue poorly organised on their behalf. They wanted to war Pyro not CR, so the obvious way for them around this was to negotiated a shortened CF with Pyro so they could war them so that CR couldn?t notice.

However CR effectively removed that option by stating very openly that they would hit into any war organised that way, or that was certainly how I read the below posts from Godly:





Therefore what do you propose AMA do, accept a 2 v 1 or war interference because CR does not like AMA using Diplo to get themselves out of the problem they had? One could equally argue CR had organised poorly to be in a position where their only targets to hit were AMA...

I'm probably missing some timeline, but those are the bits that stick in my mind and nothing in this thread convinces me that this age or next age will be any change at all...

We will never know if CR had done it or not. If they had, chances had been very high it had backfired and they would have been on the receiving end of a GB. My point is that only AMA and maybe someone else justified that kind of behaviour before, while most think its wrong to play that way. No matter what i think about AMA i had temporary stod by thier side against CR if that had happend. A threat is nothing but a threat, a bluff is nothing but a bluff. Its up to the KD to call the bluff or negotiate out of it. AMA made this mess and they choose to dealbreak, nothing that happend before this can make up for it.

[Anri]

No one was under the illusion that we werent going to be ganbanged.

If your wonderful coalition of justice is exactly what you are making it out to be - maybe its time to stop the TM's and exploring from certain kingdoms and acctually raze us? If it was really justice there shouldnt be any gains in there for the kds participating.

Also if we are really going to clean all slates maybe you should lead by example and stop trashtalking in every post.

Love and Peace

If Pyro does TMs its only because they need to match CR when they have won. So that they can have a fair war once AMA is taken care of. On Simians behalf, we are doing only razes. You can take a summary and see this for yourself.

[Crazy Pete]

We will never know if CR had done it or not. If they had, chances had been very high it had backfired and they would have been on the receiving end of a GB. My point is that only AMA and maybe someone else justified that kind of behaviour before, while most think its wrong to play that way. No matter what i think about AMA i had temporary stod by thier side against CR if that had happend. A threat is nothing but a threat, a bluff is nothing but a bluff. Its up to the KD to call the bluff or negotiate out of it. AMA made this mess and they choose to dealbreak, nothing that happend before this can make up for it.

Yes ANri I'm sure you would be leading the charge, rounding up an alliance to stick up for AMA if CR double hostiled us lol. Call it how it is, don't say how you would like it to be. We all agree what we did was wrong no one here is saying it was right, do I disagree with a GB in this instance...no. What I do disagree with is the focus has been on AMA ya I know terrible guys etc etc.

SO with that said moving forward if there is an ounce to truth in what you are saying and all the other fair play alliance, anything shady will be dealt with by a GB regardless of the kingdom that is guilty I assume.

So until AMA or any other kingdom next age does something shady I don't think that any GB of any kd moving forward should be based on previous ages such as this age which is what you are more or less saying.

There are no plans from AMA to deal break next age that any of us are aware of. Garunteed we will be looking to war each kd participating in the GB on fair terms next age, we would assume there is nothing wrong with this and meets the "fairplay" standards.

[Fury]

Yes ANri I'm sure you would be leading the charge, rounding up an alliance to stick up for AMA if CR double hostiled us lol. Call it how it is, don't say how you would like it to be. We all agree what we did was wrong no one here is saying it was right, do I disagree with a GB in this instance...no. What I do disagree with is the focus has been on AMA ya I know terrible guys etc etc.

SO with that said moving forward if there is an ounce to truth in what you are saying and all the other fair play alliance, anything shady will be dealt with by a GB regardless of the kingdom that is guilty I assume.

So until AMA or any other kingdom next age does something shady I don't think that any GB of any kd moving forward should be based on previous ages such as this age which is what you are more or less saying.

There are no plans from AMA to deal break next age that any of us are aware of. Garunteed we will be looking to war each kd participating in the GB on fair terms next age, we would assume there is nothing wrong with this and meets the "fairplay" standards.

Lets do one better. Since Anri has been talking about 1v1 vs ama "fair" since forever. How about we arrange a OOP war vs simians next age, can not get any more fair and just than that?

[Chuck]

Which one is it crazy Pete. .. You deserve to be GBed or not? You guys can't make up your mind as to whether or not you can accept that what you did was wrong. Don't expect any sort of cf from simians in ages to come.

Proteus, I used to respect you. All that is now out the window. You seem to think that you have some sort of legitimate argument and that we actually have to justify our actions to you guys. The fact of the matter is that the only ppl that needed to be convinced are already in agreement with us. There is nothing for you to gain with your long winded posts. Give it up already. Surely you must have better things to do with your time. .

[topsy's revenge]

Everyone in AMA knows that Benjamin is not in leadership. What we did with AMA would be my decision. I told them 8 days before they waved us that I was interested in talking and they never came. I told them 3.5 days before they waved that a deal inwhich they war pyro and us if they win after a notice(and where they can't get b2b'd by pyro if they lose) was a good idea. Elit said he'd take 48 hours to think on it. He never replied again.

[ZodZilla]

Anri you do realize you've dealbroken AMA twice right? Hard to say there is no excuse for a dealbreak, then turn around and do the same thing to 'police' it. They may have dealbroken (someone who wasn't you), but dealbreaking them still makes you a dealbreaker. Doubletime.

[Anri]

Lets do one better. Since Anri has been talking about 1v1 vs ama "fair" since forever. How about we arrange a OOP war vs simians next age, can not get any more fair and just than that?

1 age later you realize this is what i tried to do all along, but you had to go spoil things by hiding and waving us from nowhere when all we tried to do was arrange a simple 1 on 1. If you had won you would have got respect and bragging rights, and its hihgly likely you would have won.

A bit slow are we

[Pendel1]

How long this raze kill will last? I think ama lost enough already so why not let them fight CR?