CR vs AMA

[Anri]

Yeah, its really a joke how some KDS hit for land and also explore on the side. How is this fair to KD's not participating in the GB? Fair play alliance? Haha, please.
Why the hell should Pyro get free land out of this?
Its really a joke and hypocrisy on a very ugly level.


Explain to me how this is fair to a kd like BB? Fair play alliance can decide that BB are completely out of the running and grow some of the GBing kds involved to solidify it?

BB condemned and took a stance against AMAs play. They just could not bare in thier hearts to help gb thier old allies. They are giving any participants in the gb new deals. Yes, BB may not hit but they made it very clear what side they on. BB decided themselfs they were out of the running just like a few other kds did. Pyro take acres to match RBL for the top war. Anyway. No matter what you think. The top is a part of this and everythings sorted out with the kds. All is against AMAs ****play. Even the ones not participating in the GB itself.

[ideaotic]

Threat - a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Threats
Threats
Spoken or written words tending to intimidate or menace others.

Statutes in a number of jurisdictions prohibit the use of threats and Unlawful Communications by any person. Some of the more common types of threats forbidden by law are those made with an intent to obtain a pecuniary advantage or to compel a person to act against his or her will. In all states, it is an offense to threaten to (1) use a deadly weapon on another person; (2) injure another's person or property; or (3) injure another's reputation.

It is a federal offense to threaten to harm the president or to use the mail to transmit threatening communications. These laws must be balanced against First Amendment rights.

Unlawful communications include, among other things, the use of threats to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that tend to provoke a breach of the peace. The use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt has been held to constitute an unlawful communication but might be prosecuted as Extortion.

A mere threat that does not cause any harm is generally not actionable. When combined with apparently imminent bodily harm, however, a threat is an assault for which the offender might be subject to civil or criminal liability. In most jurisdictions, a plaintiff can recover damages for the intentional infliction of severe mental or emotional suffering caused by threats or unlawful communications.

In those jurisdictions that have statutes prohibiting unlawful communications, such as letters that tend to provoke a breach of the peace, a violation of the statute gives rise to a civil action for damages.


Therefore, when talking if a threat is actionable or not please understand what is a threat and in what cases law considers it as wrong. Also, i think no reasonable man throws away a threat he won't or can't fulfil..and if he does then please define for yourself such a person.

just my two cents.

Congrats GB alliance on pushing AMA into being GBed, nice plot.

[American Badass]

This thread died completely after Topsys screw up, nothing to kill a thread like a ****ing apology. Keep them in PM next time, thank you for calling.

Orly?

[Fury]

BB condemned and took a stance against AMAs play. They just could not bare in thier hearts to help gb thier old allies. They are giving any participants in the gb new deals. Yes, BB may not hit but they made it very clear what side they on. BB decided themselfs they were out of the running just like a few other kds did. Pyro take acres to match RBL for the top war. Anyway. No matter what you think. The top is a part of this and everythings sorted out with the kds. All is against AMAs ****play. Even the ones not participating in the GB itself.

The only thing that is happening here is shart shaping on a 10+ KD level. If you cant even confess that maybe Pyro shouldnt have been TMing and exploring while doing work in the name of justice. This alliance is completely pointless and everyone involved in it is doing just as much harm as we did by dealbreaking CR.

[Anri]

Threat - a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Threats
Threats
Spoken or written words tending to intimidate or menace others.

Statutes in a number of jurisdictions prohibit the use of threats and Unlawful Communications by any person. Some of the more common types of threats forbidden by law are those made with an intent to obtain a pecuniary advantage or to compel a person to act against his or her will. In all states, it is an offense to threaten to (1) use a deadly weapon on another person; (2) injure another's person or property; or (3) injure another's reputation.

It is a federal offense to threaten to harm the president or to use the mail to transmit threatening communications. These laws must be balanced against First Amendment rights.

Unlawful communications include, among other things, the use of threats to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that tend to provoke a breach of the peace. The use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt has been held to constitute an unlawful communication but might be prosecuted as Extortion.

A mere threat that does not cause any harm is generally not actionable. When combined with apparently imminent bodily harm, however, a threat is an assault for which the offender might be subject to civil or criminal liability. In most jurisdictions, a plaintiff can recover damages for the intentional infliction of severe mental or emotional suffering caused by threats or unlawful communications.

In those jurisdictions that have statutes prohibiting unlawful communications, such as letters that tend to provoke a breach of the peace, a violation of the statute gives rise to a civil action for damages.


Therefore, when talking if a threat is actionable or not please understand what is a threat and in what cases law considers it as wrong. Also, i think no reasonable man throws away a threat he won't or can't fulfil..and if he does then please define for yourself such a person.

just my two cents.

Congrats GB alliance on pushing AMA into being GBed, nice plot.

irl does not apply in utopia. you need abs law book if anything

[American Badass]

Weren't you guys well ahead of pyro before this bull**** kicked off ? I guess if CR is cool with that situation then whatever, hell maybe that's even preferable because you can take more land (lol). But it seems to me a bs way to quickly get caught up in size.

It's just the principle of it, you don't GB for land, you raze.

AMA, Havoc and pyro were all the only kds with a shot to crown. what AMA did was bs and they know it. They have now lost any rights to crown. After the war Havoc will raze down and pyro vs havoc will happen which *should* decide the crown. The only kd we don't want winning is AMA due to deal breaking that has NEVER been ok and now the top is so small we can and will start policing it no matter who you are.

[Anri]

The only thing that is happening here is shart shaping on a 10+ KD level. If you cant even confess that maybe Pyro shouldnt have been TMing and exploring while doing work in the name of justice. This alliance is completely pointless and everyone involved in it is doing just as much harm as we did by dealbreaking CR.

Noop. CR and Pyro will match up but too early for you to see it.

[clawz]

Anri is blind and smokes the wrong brand of weed. Sorry I have to say this.

[Anri]

And this is one of the moments I regret ABS disbanded. And I bet many others do. As lame as they seemed sometimes, there were a few guys in there with a good morale and that would not play after the jungle rules.

Yes. I got gbed by abs twice for far less things then a dealbreak+wave. Absalom was good at it and this is one of the times they would have gbed also.

[Anri]

Anri is blind and smokes the wrong brand of weed. Sorry I have to say this.

I did not know everyone in AMA got to vote. A) Dealbreak+wave B) play fair and win with style or go down with style

You guys went option A)

Tells me a great deal of AMA

[Elit]

Anri, no one like Simians because every age you are doing lame ****s to all kds you have power. You alredy deal broke us x2 and joined GB x2. You deal broke many kds in past too. This age all ages you asked us and other side for gb them. Simple Simians is ready to join any time for GB any kd and you are happy doing it. You cant pretend about fair play when kds involved in this GB dont play fair most from time and make lame moves. We get same ****s every age and we are tired from it. Its why we did what we did and its same from what we get regular but now its become "unfair". Its how you guys play nonstop.

You want justice. There is FAIR solution. All kds involved in GB reset same number provs you killed and we gave acres to Havoc back. They was only kd with real shot for win age till they messed it and after it pyro refuse to help in 2vs1. Whan to be fair? Give up crown and back chart to his proper place. Havoc was only kd with shot for win in fair play.

[Fury]

Noop. CR and Pyro will match up but too early for you to see it.

Oh I have never questioned that they wont be matched up, im questioning you chart shaping on such a massive level, deciding which kds amongst your "justice league" that will crown.

You should call yourself the chart shaping dictatorship if anything

[t8x]

...and now the top is so small we can and will start policing it no matter who you are.

I predict very interesting next ages.
Somehow i have a feeling there will be an alliance to dominate the top.
However history shows that Domination leads to war.
Resistance will be formed. Lets see how long that alliance may be "policing" the top :)

the faery circle will be back :D

[carsten]

WOW- Coss makes a humble and respectful statement about Absalom . Something i wouldnt have expected to see ever considering the differences we had back in the days.

Ppl are bringing up bad stories about absalom all the time and i fear they are right in respect to the last few ages of Absalom.
Back in the day when Absalom ( and the game ) was going strong though Absaloms main idea was to protect its kingdoms from "****play".
Also we tried to be respectful to the other kds around us and thus expected a similar courtesy in return.

What Havoc did was very provoking and in my times as Absalom leader i would clearly have scolded any Abs monarch for doing their diplo that way - Its just a big NO GO if you want to have a somewhat respectful playing environment.
On the other hand if one of our kds got NAP Broken of course Absalom would have stepped in - even against the odds ( yes we have fought Alliance wars a many and even when outnumbered ) stood up for our kingdoms and beliefs .

The main problem in the current gaming environment is that the respect is long gone and the ****play has run rampant over the last ages .

I really applaud the effort to bring "fair play" back. Im not so sure though what the best course of action in doing so is - I believe Drixx and Anri when they say they want more fair play in the future and their actions will tell if they really mean it. But without the integration of AMA as one of the few Top kds left this wouldnt be possible.

So i hope all parties can sit together at one point and fix this. Apologize to each other and state what kind of play is a NO GO. THe farming out from last ages, the CF breaking, the "Dibs" should be discussed.

The last point from Elit to restore the situation similar to what it was before the deal break sounds somewhat "fair" to me.

The one good i see from this GB is the possibility to unite in what is considered "Fair play".

Stop the insults and work together......(something i have tried several times after AWars - to sit together and agree on some basic rules of engagement , like no doubling, hitting into war and NAP breaking eg...)

[Anri]

Anri, no one like Simians because every age you are doing lame ****s to all kds you have power. You alredy deal broke us x2 and joined GB x2. You deal broke many kds in past too. This age all ages you asked us and other side for gb them. Simple Simians is ready to join any time for GB any kd and you are happy doing it. You cant pretend about fair play when kds involved in this GB dont play fair most from time and make lame moves. We get same ****s every age and we are tired from it. Its why we did what we did and its same from what we get regular but now its become "unfair". Its how you guys play nonstop.

You want justice. There is FAIR solution. All kds involved in GB reset same number provs you killed and we gave acres to Havoc back. They was only kd with real shot for win age till they messed it and after it pyro refuse to help in 2vs1. Whan to be fair? Give up crown and back chart to his proper place. Havoc was only kd with shot for win in fair play.

No one likes Simians, is this why we are having cheerful laughs about AMA and i have lots of allied KDs that we would NEVER leave hanging and backstab, infact we die for them any day. Maybe you can learn something about this from us. You say GB x2 and dealbreak x2 as if its 4 events, when infact you screwed up 2 times as badly as we and others needed to GB you. Stop ****playing.

I am not sure what your problem is, because you know what you done was GB worthy and you expected that dealbreak was your best chance to crown. So you went ahead and did it then dont cry wolf when we GB you. Not entirely sure how your mind works. You dealbreak and **** on other kds and expect to not get it back?
(this is why we are laughing btw, because you dont seem to understand you dont get to do what you want.
Then you act like a big baby when we police you for trying to steal the crown while everyone was watching.)