CR vs AMA

[Elit]

Anri, can we tag Fair play too?

[Judge]

You started the whole conversation saying the goal is to take AMA out of crown race. They are out of it. Then you said u want cfs to all kds, AMA agreed to that. Then you again changed and want Pyro to raze acres (how is that relevant to the war with CR on equal terms?). Why did you decide you want Pyro to raze acres after the initial request from CR for them to make tms? Why CR demands anything from Pyro when it was them who dictated who and how Pyro hits in the AMA vs CR war? Poor CR they lost 800 milion in the whole thing, let's gb pyro and make it even so that CR can farm them.

Btw do you guys consider chart shaping something that requires gb? cause:

- pewpew did chartshape farming out to SWEA and RBL
- Simians did chartshape with 2 GBs on crown competitors
- if Pyro are forced to raze their acres and then war CR that's another chart shape

So in total you have RBL, SImians and CR doing chart shaping, first two on 2 different occasions and the results is? They tag Fair Play.

You still live in the past right?

[Elit]

You still live in the past right?

So why gb us. Its past after we done it?

[Anri]

You started the whole conversation saying the goal is to take AMA out of crown race. They are out of it. Then you said u want cfs to all kds, AMA agreed to that. Then you again changed and want Pyro to raze acres (how is that relevant to the war with CR on equal terms?). Why did you decide you want Pyro to raze acres after the initial request from CR for them to make tms? Why CR demands anything from Pyro when it was them who dictated who and how Pyro hits in the AMA vs CR war? Poor CR they lost 800 milion in the whole thing, let's gb pyro and make it even so that CR can farm them.

Btw do you guys consider chart shaping something that requires gb? cause:

- pewpew did chartshape farming out to SWEA and RBL
- Simians did chartshape with 2 GBs on crown competitors
- if Pyro are forced to raze their acres and then war CR that's another chart shape

So in total you have RBL, SImians and CR doing chart shaping, first two on 2 different occasions and the results is? They tag Fair Play.

P.S. Anri you always say let's change but:

- AMA hit pewpew in their war with strippers, some ppl said that was wrong and we changed. We didn't hit in Pewpew vs ED wars.
- Pewpew did some bad chart shaping but this age they stay away from major top ****play
- Simians made a gb against crown contender N1 and let the other kd take the crown, now they do the same.

Why you talk about change when you don't change.

what is so hard to understand, you dealbreak, you get gbed, you are the ones chartshaping, not us for GBing a dealbreaker.

That pretty much answers everything you said

[Band of Horses]

So why gb us. Its past after we done it?

Anri QQ in past and present and future. He is the all 3 ghosts at once.
I will start the QQ Alliance. It is only for Forum Warrarrarriors. No prov necessary.

[Anri]

Anri, can we tag Fair play too?

If you willing to tagg FAIR PLAY and we can get everyone else to do this and stop warring/fighting, then sure!
Then we can move towards putting up rules for next age and better terms for FAIR PLAY. Its no BS and you can write to me anytime you want on irc and i can try to have everyone else make FAIR PLAY also with you. We can have channel to work over everything in time for next age. The fair play tagg was never for me meant to be used with a KD name. It should just been FAIR PLAY enforced on all.

But i cant make the changes alone

[Anri]

Anri QQ in past and present and future. He is the all 3 ghosts at once.
I will start the QQ Alliance. It is only for Forum Warrarrarriors. No prov necessary.

Resistance is futile

[Elit]

what is so hard to understand, you dealbreak, you get gbed, you are the ones chartshaping, not us for GBing a dealbreaker.

That pretty much answers everything you said

Its you actualy. I wanted to keep it fair after we deal broke Pyro. I offered them to war 1vs1 with havoc. Both kds was same size. KD win win age. We gave up run for n1. Its was good solution with no chart shape. Top 3 stay top 3 and Havoc get punish for his rude and lame power play.

[Band of Horses]

Resistance is futile

Don't bully me! QQ Alliance ASSEMBLE!

[Elit]

AMA vs Rage+GB alliance Summary

Total Attacks Made: 145 (+27024 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 423 (-31688 acres)
- - - Uniques: 146
- - - Trad March: 150 (-30996 acres)
- - - Ambush: 5 (-692 acres)
- - - Raze: 248 (-7023 acres unbuilt/destroyed)
- - - Learn: 7
- - - Fails: 13 (3.07%)
Net Exchange: -4664 acres

Enemy Kingdom: (rage) +4606 acres (155/145) [58]
13 KAQhG59zqZc: -2404 acres (0/5) []
20 J---aiyznGQ: -2431 acres (9/74) [3]
14 hHUbLv4ThOo: -3441 acres (4/15) [3]
05 HilAVhm3BqI: -3987 acres (0/8) []

Enemy Kingdom: (simians) +58 acres (179/0) [57]

Enemy Kingdom: (rusty) 0 acres (64/0) [23]

Enemy Kingdom: (shell) 0 acres (20/0) [4]

Enemy Kingdom: (?) 0 acres (3/0) [3]

Enemy Kingdom: (?) 0 acres (2/0) [1]

[Soul_Hunter]

So how are we chartshaping? I don't see how any of our actions directly influence the crown race. We waved and warrd CR and they ar still there in the crown race, Pyro are also there. We were dropped. Which is punishment and also chartshaping. But you Anri demand Pyro to raze acres and even wanted to GB them. That is not chartspahing? Killing the competition for the crown is not chartshaping?

@Judge. Don't be talking about me looking at the past. Go f@king read the logs from the fair play. All of them state that they refused a perfectly reasonable deal because THEY GOT ****S FROM ELIT IN PAST AGES AND DO NOT BELIEVE HIM. Anri repeats in almost every post how backstabbing was Elit. All of them dwell on PAST events and i do not talk about this age. All of them. So when we say past ****plays got 0 policing we are wrong for living in the past. But when you are basically refusing to make any reasonable deal cause "we all got bad past experience with Elit" then it's fine? Double standards much?

[Proteus]

the main goal is still to have CR and Pyro to war for the crown, as soon as AMA gives up thier resistance and stops beleiving dealbreaks is okey. I dont know how you missed that after 110+ pages in here.

AMA agreed along time to EOA cf all involved and not go for #1.

Resist what, having you force unreasonable demands on AMA and make us raze more after we already lose 40k acres from our original size.

AMA already agreed for EOA nap with all which lets Pyro and Havoc war 1v1, the reason this still continues is because you continue to make demands to try and hurt AMA rather than enforce fairplay, losing 40k acres and having multiple provinces PK is punishment enough.

This is exact reason why public opinion backfire on you and allies leave gb, because you already achieve goals of 1) AMA will be punished for dealbreak 2) AMA wont crown 3) Pyro vs. Havoc have war for #1... but you add objective #4) make AMA raze even more land or go 25 green which was never one of your original objectives..

[Anri]

So how are we chartshaping? I don't see how any of our actions directly influence the crown race. We waved and warrd CR and they ar still there in the crown race, Pyro are also there. We were dropped. Which is punishment and also chartshaping. But you Anri demand Pyro to raze acres and even wanted to GB them. That is not chartspahing? Killing the competition for the crown is not chartshaping?

CR rightfully played to be #1 and have a lead over the rest because they dipped better and choose to play the age without wars, it was thier way of playing. You chartshaped when you choose to dealbreak.
Its very simple, no one else did it, it was all you, we just take action. The very moment you decide to dealbreak you have shaped charts in a way we can hardly ever return to the status the charts should have been in. And if you wonder, AMA lost thier right to be part of the top play the moment they dealbroke and changed the charts.

And yes, i beleive Pyro should remove thier acres, they would still be in a much stronger position then they were before you guys decided to dealbreak.

stop smoking joints

[Anri]

This is exact reason why public opinion backfire on you and allies leave gb, because you already achieve goals of 1) AMA will be punished for dealbreak 2) AMA wont crown 3) Pyro vs. Havoc have war for #1... but you add objective #4) make AMA raze even more land or go 25 green which was never one of your original objectives..

Public opinion has hardly backfired, you just made more people from AMA post and some first time posters showed up linked to ama. Apart from that its the very same people as it was from the start of this thread.

Its your way of looking at things, that you deserve some kind of good deals after you have dealbroken. Not mine.

[TommyB]

the world does not circuit around AMA

But why do you?