PS, "hostage" means you will not give it the account back to pew and they have to accept you being there otherwise you A) delete the province or B) Raze them by following through your threat you said would happen to them which would cost them time, acres, money and an account. Pretty childish if you ask me.
January 8 of YR9 Chip the glasses and (PEW) attempted to invade 12 bDRTzmuwMnQ (RAGE).
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Maybe you should ask yourself why you got hit? When you stab someone in the back dont be mad when they stab you back with your own knife. I did nothing but try to help you, and got censored and banned because of it. Had you listened to me you wouldn't have been in the situation you are right now, simple as that. I wont deny what I did was wrong, but my feelings were extremely hurt. Sometimes that gets the best of you. Combined with fact my hit and actions had the effect I wanted which was a disruption in the support of your GB. Seems my plan worked because where is all of your support now? Rest like I said that is the past and been sorted, I also can tell you one thing. Tox, Ryan, Binar, etc have listened to me more than any of you ever have we had severe disagreements yet was able to talk them out and come to some sense and an understanding. Wish the same could have happened there, sadly that was not the case. I have no ill will towards the KD, just honestly got sick of being ignored, powerplayed, lied to, and insulted by Drixx.
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Why does AMA like pyro so much? Giving 4 big cow hits and now CF. If pyro war CR, CR needs to be 15k or smaller or AMA will raze into war? Also 'saves' them from simians early age?
Wasent pyro with PP and CR in this preage anti-AMA alliance? Or did cJ lick enuff AMA ass over the last week or so?
I guess Pyro want the crown that much, that he decided to betray everyone that have help him before... just my assumption.
If they would come out and explain, that will be great
So keen on that bet PS or not?
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It would probably help to read up the last 20 pages or so, if you're interested in knowing.
1. So you admit to being allies with havoc this age then?
2. You admit to helping havoc even when they refused to help when strippers dealbroke you.
3. Pity you didn't learn anything about cowing from asf or I when we were there, maybe would lose less cow acres :p
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I think he refered to pyro beeing the ally. Dispite all the conspiracy theories, everybody in and near the top knows how our CF's were setup. We had a CF with the 3 members of the only real alliance in the top 10 this age.
There is a huge difference between having a CF with somebody and beeing allies. If I would follow your logic I would be allied to ama aswell.
Well ... I guess it's tricky to understand, but as such Pyro is neutral! We have not been a t10 KD for long which means we might see things from a different perspective. (The following is my own personal remark and does not represent Pyro in any way). We joined Fair Play because what AMA did was a clear dealbreak and one such it would influence the top game as such! We stepped down because it was, from out perspective, the right thing to do. We may not have been colored from AMA's play the many past ages, but are also not blind to what has been going on in the top for many ages. Noone can claim to be saints here! Joining a fair play action and not keeping it fair, was in our perspective fishy business, why we stepped out of it. We talk with AMA just as we talk to the rest of the KD's in the top. I think it's safe to say, that we're not bestest buddies with AMA and after we stepped out of fair play, not really any of the KD's up here (except PewPew). We don't claim to have taken the only high moral horse in the game, but do hope, that those players who have a grunch with us efter this, will see over time, that the fair play action was fair in the beginning but got tainted over time by bringing the past into all of this and acting upon it.
1.) Ofc AMA is royal pissed at us for joining the fair play action. I do however think Nesta and Elit want to reset relations, since both see it fair to gb after the dealbreak. It has been said by Elit in this thread, that they stepped out of the crown race the sec they dealbroke.
2.) The rest of fair play are ofc also pissed at us, because they feel we betrayed them and left ppl hanging by leaving the action when we did. I fully understand this. Had the outlines of fair play been clearer before the action started, I doubt we would have joined as we did. We didn't join to smack AMA back to kingdom come but to send a clear msgs that this kind of dealbreak in not acceptable. When that goal was reached and things started to smell a bit funky in our perspective we left. Yes we left some hanging and for that we're sorry. We did however only leave those hanging who turned down a cf for all only to raze AMA cows.
3.) This whole action was not to get acres and then kill AMA. Yes ofc it was to send them out of the crown race, but that only due to their actions. Actions they themselves knew would do so. We had hoped to war AMA on fair terms before this happened, but sadly CR's notice of notice dip post ruined this. At this point AMA, CR and Pyro should have had a talk about how this was going down in a fair manner. Sadly that didn't happen.
People tend to forget, that the lack of functional diplo here is the result of too much bad history and in some cases to little understanding of the various cultures around the world. Many see Pyro as acres and crown hungry bastards after we withdrew from the fair play actions. That is truely not how we see ourselves. Maybe we're just blind to how our actions are percieved or many people are just to used to all actions are most likely only to gain acres and an advantage. The reason we pulled out was due to lack of fair play as we saw it and not to gain those lowsy acres. 12-13K acres. C'mon ppl. We came out more or less the same size as CR to prep for our war. If that was what was agreed upon before th gb started that's just about it. Had the outline of what was about to happen been clearer we might not have joined in the first place, since meeting 'non pair play' with 'non fair play' would have been nonsense. We would have found those acres elsewhere, while the not so fair play KD's had takes AMA down. That would have been even worse! So unles we were to take part in something we could not support we had a lose lose situation.
So all in all NoseBlood. We're the bad guys because we left some hanging, who didn't take an all CF deal, because they wanted to raze AMA cows as revenge and we got out with 12-13K acres that now seem to be the dirtiest acres in the game this age. We had hoped to get our wars to get near the crown and prove we do know how to fight the best this age. Would have been a way better way to settle things! We were looking forward to face AMA and after that CR. We even made banners ^^ But I guess that fine dream ended with the wast amounts of **** and fans in the top 10 :P
I do hope Next age will be less dramatic in the forums and more active on the battlefields :D
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Age 45 - Ahh .. didn't really play that age :/
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A lowsy 12-13k acres on your cows. Seriously? That is 1 free cow. How many acres did Simians and RBL get? CR back to where they were 2 weeks prior. (But with no cows instead of the 3 best cows on the server)
Honestly I was quite sour on the Pyros early this age. I thought them very nub, but that was a mistake. They understand the BS and ****play required to win a crown and they are going all out at it. It seems everyone enjoys the game of thrones mentality.
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AMA doesn't like PyroManiaCs, and personally I don't find anything likeable about AMA. We got saved from noone; we warred Simians. (Yes, we had 15k acre advantage)
PyroManiaCs weren't the ones in need of help, CR was. Someone care to paint the scenery where PyroManiaCs did not join the FPA?
As for GB: justice was served and a perfectly good deal was on the table. Like people stated before, this deal was once again based on trust. Had they broken their word again, there would have been ZERO objection from anyone to pursue something similar to 25 green.
I don't have a clue why the deal was rejected....seriously...anyone losing/gaining anything after this offer Nesta and Elit worked out only has himself to blame.
Disclaimer: all above is personal opinion and not PyroManiaCs leadership.
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