CR vs AMA

[Godly]

Elit, like I said if you had a problem with my terminology you could have contacted me via PM and I could have clarified. I don't mince words... a bigger, more sci, more gc kingdom is the stronger kingdom by all definitions. It isn't "rude" it's fact in the world of reality. This is just a game, dude. It's not like because you were 20k less acres than us, you're a worse of a human being. Next round you'll be bigger or whatever. To take it one step further to go back on your word does make you worse of a human being.

You may be justifiably angry at a lot of things over the last 4 rounds, but I (and my kingdom) should be the least of the source of your anger. We haven't done anything wrong to you, man.

[Korp]

Are you delusional?

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15278273

Post was edited by BISHOP.

Furthermore, the next day we offered them a deal to avoid ANY of this. Korp, I understand that you're a troll that will be against me no matter what, but you're not making any sense here.

Oh, found it, the post where you claim it was misspeak cause Elit annoyed you.

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15279318

[Elit]

Not many more than a handfull of kds could achieve what Pyro has this age, you of all should recognize they did very well for a virgin whore kingdom. Yes Elit, your kingdom is way better. So are others. But atm Pyro is ranked #1, that aint bad, at all.

Pyro did very good! Its fact. Nesta and CJ doing good job.

[wickedfail]

I gave breakdown of the acres later. I was rebutting the person that said 11-12k acres were lowsy. Putting 4k acres on the banks is far from lowsy.

I generally try to skip posts that seem irrelevant. Was probably in those 5 pages I skipped somewhere. My bad.

[Korp]

Calling players you know nothing about nubs, says a lot more about you than Pyro players.

Why do you stop your quote short of the whole sentence? "I didnt say Pyro is the best kingdom, nor that they would have been in this position without recent events. But they are where they are, and that doesnt come without some decent skill." <-- That was me saying Pyro knows that they are only in their current position due to the fact that charts has been shaped in their favour the past week.

Not many more than a handfull of kds could achieve what Pyro has this age, you of all should recognize they did very well for a virgin whore kingdom. Yes Elit, your kingdom is way better. So are others. But atm Pyro is ranked #1, that aint bad, at all.

Pyro never claimed to be the best kingdom, they are very humble about their whoring capabilities. I was merely pointing out that a kingdom who this late in the age are ranked #1, cant be all crap.

SWEA won the age and it was a ****ty kd your argument is void.

[Godly]

That's a reference to:

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15279316


When I told him we'd notice Jan 1st and hit April 1st, I should have stated clearly that was conditional on them not being in relations. It was clarified later on utalk and through our actions of sending a deal to them. There was 0 foul play here.

[Korp]

Why dont you just man up Godly, nobody cares if you did threaten with a 2vs1 in the heat of the moment but a liar is frowned upon. Then giving you played in dubious kingdoms as ZZ its not surprising that you're prone to shady things. PS your edited post was on page 3 not the one where you couldnt behave.

[Godly]

Korp, because that's really not what I was intending to say. The entire argument was actually over whether we could even notice them or not. Elit was saying that our notice was invalid due to the fact that they would be noticing Pyro at the same time. I was informing Elit that they would be fair game. I wasn't informed of any "reset clause" and to this day I still don't know anything about it.

In general, actions supersede words: we sent them a CF extension to let them fight Pyro. I don't know how anyone in AMA could still think after that that we would be 2v1'ing them even if they misinterpreted this thread.

As far as ZZ, I played in the new ZZ not the script one and it was 3 years ago. Bring up something less relevant?

[makeo]

No disrespect, but while I view Ama as the best from a math/strategical pov and at warring on the server, this thread and the last few ages show there are clear flaws in their approach.

Cuz Pyro's have pwnt the server quite easily on diplo....and they're a warring kd. :p

There's a reason ama keep getting gb'd and ****played.. and it ain't just because the rest are nubs. :p

Just imo. No doubt I'm a total nub who knows nothing. :)


Well, apart from psychology 101.

[Elit]

[17:15] <Elit> hi
[17:15] <munk> hiya
[17:16] <Elit> any idea why you explore when you don't have cf with us?
[17:16] <munk> to prevent pool decay
[17:16] <Elit> make sense!
[17:16] <munk> ya
[17:17] <Elit> when our cf expire
[17:17] <Elit> i think its soon
[17:17] <munk> i think so
[17:17] <munk> we'd prefer if you can make a CF with all of us
[17:18] <Elit> why now?
[17:18] <Elit> i told stop pk
[17:18] <Elit> you continue
[17:18] <Elit> i told want WW you refuse
[17:18] <munk> cos u didn't' accept CF before?
[17:18] <Elit> you asked not acceptable deal
[17:18] <Elit> and situation is different now
[17:18] <Elit> number provs pked 8
[17:18] <Elit> we didn't get WW too
[17:19] <Elit> why we need to CF you now?
[17:19] <Elit> give me 1 reason
[17:19] <munk> to end it?

January 1 of YR10 AMA invaded Fireballed to ten (Havoc) and razed 475 acres of land.
January 1 of YR10 AMA invaded Fireballed to ten (Havoc) and razed 392 acres of land.

Im still open for reasonable solution :)

[Folle]

SWEA won the age and it was a ****ty kd your argument is void.

I stand corrected.

[Band of Horses]

Im still open for reasonable solution :)

No, this is past the time to be reasonable. This is unreasonable time.

[faegan]

To make its clear to all n00bs in Pyro. If you win age its all because AMA work for you to win age from 1 week before deal break started and we still doing it. So shut up and dont come and post nonsenses.

Old news Elit. PyroManiaCs is back to being n00bs now as well. Great.
CR had best chance to win the age; AMA had close no none after the Remote razes.

We'd rather have warred you, much more fun!

[Proteus]

Godly please you make arrogant posts every time before you war someone and then go inactive for remainder of round after you lose. I don't have the time to but if anyone else does perhaps they should pull your pre-conflict posts for BB vs. Havoc last age to see all the smack you talked only to wind up losing.

Also look at your signature, is that not proof enough. I don't know why you have such an ego for someone who doesn't actually lead. I've been on council in a bunch of good kds too, guess what its not the same as leading a kd and being the one who drives results. You run a big mouth but your current kd has won 0 land crown since inception and has not won any notable wars.

P.s. It looks like your halfling was too fat and out of sync with rest of kd so we did you a favor and balance kd a by helping him pump through removal of land he did not have military to support. You are welcome, consider this one on the house and tax-free.

[Tapout]

Elit, like I said if you had a problem with my terminology you could have contacted me via PM and I could have clarified. I don't mince words... a bigger, more sci, more gc kingdom is the stronger kingdom by all definitions. It isn't "rude" it's fact in the world of reality. This is just a game, dude. It's not like because you were 20k less acres than us, you're a worse of a human being. Next round you'll be bigger or whatever. To take it one step further to go back on your word does make you worse of a human being.

You may be justifiably angry at a lot of things over the last 4 rounds, but I (and my kingdom) should be the least of the source of your anger. We haven't done anything wrong to you, man.

Its funny (or perhaps tragic) how in isolation you all sound so reasonable, and yet when combined together it's like a ****-storm of ill-willed, foul mouthed mud-slinging and intractable unreasonableness.

And that's not dedicated at you specifically Godly, but rather a general comment based on your post that seems entirely reasonable as an example. In isolated posts from all parties there is much I can agree with and see sense in - and yet it seems the points of common sense and reasonableness go straight out the window when you actually have to communicate with each other.