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[DonJuan]

HOSTILE


** Kingdom news report **
For the time from February 7 of YR0 till February 13 of YR0 - 7 hours
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** Summary **
Total attacks made: 2 (0 acres)
-- Raze: 2 (40 acres)
-- Uniques: 2
Total attacks suffered: 55 (2,355 acres)
-- Traditional march: 55 (2,355 acres)
-- Uniques: 21

** The kingdom of TAYLOR SWIFT is HOT **
Total land exchanged: -2,355 (2/55)
-48 Magnesium Sulfate (0/1)
-64 Fluoxetine (2 [1]/2)
-84 Sildenafil Citrate (0/2)
-94 Quaalude (0/2)
-98 Paracetamol (0/2)
-99 Tamoxifen Citrate (0/3)
-101 Dihydrogen Monoxide (1 [1]/3)
-101 Medicinal Marijuana (0/2)
-104 Citalopram (0/2)
-107 RimabotulinumtoxinB (0/2)
-107 Ciprofloxacin (0/2)
-109 Thorazine (0/2)
-109 Cyclophosphamide (0/2)
-116 Acyclovir (0/3)
-116 Fentanyl (0/3)
-117 Potassium Chloride (0/3)
-117 Levofloxacin (0/2)
-118 Diazepam (0/3)
-119 Ondansetron Hydrochloride (0/3)
-121 Marinol (0/3)
-133 Adrenalin (0/4)
-133 Serevent Diskus (0/3)


** The kingdom of KE$HA is NOT **
Total land exchanged: +2,324 (53/3)
+187 and their loins were yearning (3 [1]/0)
+143 being pegged was his fame (3 [1]/0)
+140 And less warm theyd become (3 [1]/0)
+133 there came a big wave (4 [1]/0)
+124 the captain did rave (3 [1]/0)
+121 for fapping is crappy (3 [1]/0)
+121 Pegboy was his name (3 [1]/0)
+119 THE ADVENTURES OF PEGBOY (3 [1]/0)
+118 Oh cometh to pegboy (3 [1]/0)
+117 But each time he was pegged (3 [1]/0)
+116 The pegboy was known (3 [1]/0)
+110 As the greatest of ships (2 [1]/0)
+109 his peg hole would grow (2 [1]/0)
+107 And from that day (2 [1]/0)
+107 The Ship that Doth Frown (2 [1]/0)
+99 The sailors were happy (3 [1]/0)
+98 and the sailors needed warming (2 [1]/0)
+87 And into his peghole (2 [1]/0)
+84 the sailors did mount (2 [1]/0)
+84 It was a cold dark night (2 [1]/0)
-20 And out of the beer hall (0/2)
-20 the peggers in tow (0/1)


** The kingdom of TAYLOR SWIFT is HOT **
Total land exchanged: +31 (1/0)
+31 Phoneutria (1 [1]/0)


** Highlights **


February 13 of YR0 - War declared on KE$HA is NOT



WAR


** Kingdom news report **
For the time from February 13 of YR0 till June 5 of YR0 - 89 hours
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** Summary **
Total attacks made: 651 (18,010 acres)
-- Traditional march: 604 (17,791 acres)
-- Ambush: 5 (112 acres)
-- Conquest: 8 (107 acres)
-- Raze: 24 (1,118 acres)
-- Massacre: 2 (408 population)
-- Failed: 8 (1.2% failure)
-- Uniques: 192
Total attacks suffered: 566 (16,159 acres)
-- Traditional march: 540 (15,986 acres)
-- Ambush: 6 (173 acres)
-- Raze: 13 (479 acres)
-- Failed: 7 (1.2% failure)
-- Uniques: 170

** The kingdom of TAYLOR SWIFT is HOT **
Total land exchanged: +1,851 (651/566)
+531 Gemtuzumab Ozogamicin (32 [9]/13)
+298 RimabotulinumtoxinB (29 [8]/24)
+270 Magnesium Sulfate (22 [7]/15)
+227 Potassium Chloride (20 [8]/12)
+212 Ciprofloxacin (25 [7]/17)
+211 Fentanyl (31 [8]/18)
+209 Serevent Diskus (27 [8]/20)
+184 Sildenafil Citrate (24 [8]/12)
+174 Thorazine (24 [8]/18)
+137 Tamoxifen Citrate (28 [7]/19)
+117 Cyclophosphamide (30 [8]/25)
+95 Puromycin (22 [8]/15)
+72 Paracetamol (25 [8]/19)
+71 Fluoxetine (22 [8]/16)
+68 Ondansetron Hydrochloride (30 [8]/24)
+62 Citalopram (26 [7]/20)
+62 Diazepam (23 [7]/23)
+35 Adrenalin (29 [8]/35)
+25 Dextromethorphan (16 [7]/13)
+16 Medicinal Marijuana (26 [7]/27)
+2 Acyclovir (31 [8]/32)
-4 Levofloxacin (26 [8]/31)
-45 Dihydrogen Monoxide (25 [7]/29)
-53 Quaalude (30 [8]/36)
-486 Marinol (28 [7]/53)


** The kingdom of KE$HA is NOT **
Total land exchanged: -1,851 (566/651)
+490 his peg hole would grow (19 [7]/0)
+370 And from that day (13 [8]/0)
+364 And less warm theyd become (26 [8]/10)
+245 And then on one morn (8 [5]/0)
+106 came a savior for them all (9 [5]/0)
+58 Theyd won their big fight (3 [3]/0)
-4 and the sailors needed warming (31 [8]/31)
-32 But each time he was pegged (32 [8]/29)
-53 for fapping is crappy (27 [9]/24)
-58 the captain did rave (29 [8]/28)
-72 the sailors did mount (28 [8]/30)
-87 THE ADVENTURES OF PEGBOY (29 [8]/30)
-113 The pegboy was known (31 [8]/36)
-114 Oh cometh to pegboy (28 [8]/28)
-157 It was a cold dark night (32 [8]/46)
-159 The sailors were happy (32 [8]/41)
-185 As the greatest of ships (29 [8]/36)
-197 Pegboy was his name (28 [7]/43)
-223 there came a big wave (32 [8]/40)
-235 and their loins were yearning (17 [7]/22)
-268 the peggers in tow (0/19)
-340 And out of the beer hall (0/19)
-392 And into his peghole (28 [9]/38)
-531 The Ship that Doth Frown (27 [7]/40)
-903 being pegged was his fame (28 [7]/61)


** Highlights **
Total aid packets sent
511 packets


February 13 of YR0 - War declared on KE$HA is NOT

[topsy's revenge]

Proteus, flogger only goes MIA after losing wars(such as to you or spgc). Although that age he was pretty inactive leading up to the war. Think he was busy with work or sometin. Of all the people i've seen in this game Flogger is by far the most hard core active player when active(especially in war) and the most hardcore inactive person when he decides to be so. A man of extremes!

[13nesta13]

I wanted to be among one of the first to extend my congratulations to CR for a well fought war and the win. But it seems like they could do without it, since their egos are already seemingly off the charts. First from being able to put themselves in a position to (1) force us to give 50k acres for a CF with 10 days left in the age, and then (2) now being able to win from their so-called 17 v 25, and (3) having massive troops released due to Bishop taking action on 5 of their provinces.

(1) issue was my fault and I take blame for my KD's poor prep and putting faith in the wrong people for the wrong provinces, but I do not for one bit regret giving CR extended CF for a so-called fair war. With regards to the gold robbed from Pew, I want to clarify things. CF between Pew and us was broken way before robbing started. I cancelled it out of goodwill about 1 week - 10 days prior to conflict with CR because Pew farmed Legacy big time and grew like 60k acres in 3 days. A lot of their nubs were starving and farms weren't in. Being in the same channel with their nubs, I offered to break the CF for them to rob my food because I was already on zero thieves and had food. Because that's what good allies do. Or should Pew receive QQ cos they received outside food from us?

CF was never reinstated with them, because there was no pressing need to; every 25 members of each kd knew who the other 25 was and relations between both kds were very very tight, but certainly the intention was not to rob each other later on. Fast forward, 3 days into the extended CF I gave CR, I did realise my nubs have prepped badly and we'd be short on gold. Pew's leadership, being in my private channel and having access to my bot, saw the same problem. It was a joint decision made by me and Pew's leadership (and no, cJ is not involved. He was indeed on sitting because he needed to clear assignments to be able to participate in the war) to have them give us some gold to help our cause. Regarding the sum robbed, it was under 100 million, closer to 90 million. And not millions of gold as CR loves to state (exaggeration #1).

And this is ridiculous when Anri thinks just because this happened, they lost to us under the same circumstances (stealing from allies to beat them). Anri, I know you think you're good, that we have to use external help to beat you, but I'm sorry to have to burst your bubble. We've beaten you fair and square, 2 times in a row now. I saw/heard you laughing at us in #tactics when we doubled an orc pre-BB war in our prep against BB, and you laughed at us trying to copy AMA for what they did 2 ages ago. Guess what, it worked, we beat BB and I'm proud we did that. I dont see flogger QQ-ing and thinking its likely we also robbed Pew to beat them here? Instead, we received sincere congratulations. Because that's what gracious winners/losers do (sorry flogger my vocab is limited and I cant think of a better substitute for "loser". I'm a loser now too! :P). 3 days later, you did exactly what you laughed so hard at on #tactics just 3 days ago. Double 1 undead 1 orc to fight us. I'm sorry, but that didnt work and they became food. All this QQ coming from you just makes you look bad, really bad.

(2), back on track to CR, I dont want to go into whatever details and the QQ that has gone on the last 28 pages, whether what you did was legit/fair. Fact is, cJ sent in a mail to support to ask if it's fair, as did many other kds to report kds which used similar tactics to gain extra resources. It was up to Bishop to assess the fairness of your "strategy" and whether or not to act on it. He thought it wasn't fair and acted on it. To go as far as suggesting we licked Bishop's boots for him to rule things my KD's way, calling Bishop names and saying he's lost it as a game moderator just shows how much class you guys have there.

As far as I'm (or PyroManiaCs is) concerned, if Bishop deemed it was unfair advantage, that unfair advantage was already present for 24 hours and it made all the difference. First from them having that level of military to wave us 7 hours OOP, 2nd from us having to wave down 3 near UB provinces (who would be UB given another 12h of train time had we not chosen to take them down in the first wave) who received the unfair aid in the first wave in war, 3rd from your counter-wave, and 4th, still having the troops right till they were released by Bishop towards the tail-end of our 2nd unique in war. What the release did was to make their first chained 3 provinces in the first unique more susceptible to multi taps in our 2nd unique, and made it easier for us to hit down 1 more province; the one last halfling WH had already retrained much more to break free from our core so that he was already marginal UB (UB to most in our KD except a few) and really OOR of any profitable taps and we couldnt waste hits OOR bringing him down with the war being tight at that point. Then again, like I said, this happened at our tail-end of our 2nd unique, where 75% of our KD has already sent out troops against your provinces pre-Bishopped (can I verb this? lol). So keep thinking it's 17 v 25 war if that's what rocks your boat (exaggeration #2?).

And (3), regarding the number of troops released, who's lying here then? CR members are saying Bishop released much more than what Bishop said he did. We on the other hand, didn't really care, and we didn't track. All we knew was that we were curious as to the fairness of their strategy, we sent in an email, and based on the numbers on CR's provinces and Support's reply to CJ's email, we knew Bishop took action. And we just went on with the war with no QQ. Is Bishop a more likely liar than CR members, or is it more likely the other way round? I leave that to all to judge for themselves. (exaggeration #3? or lie #1 from Bishop?)

How much was it? Because you guys later farmed them 15M science and threatened to farm them land. (all of these things make you look bad).

Zauper, I cannot at any instance recall for once that we said we were going to farm out to Pewpew. Did you hear it from me? I know CJ was trolling you guys very very close to EOA where it was impossible for you to lose the crown by then (like just hours before EOA). Pew had no war heroes and hitting us wouldnt get the land in on time before EOA. What you probably heard was Ryan trolling you saying we owe them land. If you get trolled by someone and you choose to believe it, it's now our fault that we didnt pacify you and give you reassurance of your concerns? I'm sorry, but that's what your girlfriend is for; that's not my job.

What I can confirm however, is that your guys have been trying to boss us around and telling us what to do after taking 50k land. And I can tell you right here, nobody tells us what to do. We ask for advice from friends (as was the case in our war with BB, and our hostile with you) on strats and stuff, and we choose whether or not to act on it. I received so many PMs from your KD members/leaders telling me I should do this, do that. I should close relations with Pewpew, I should not feed the conspiracy theorists, I should be a good boy, I should not take part in whatever possible EOA shenanigans, blablabla. Again, read the above. It's not my job to make you feel comforted.

Just hypothetically, (since I already made it clear I have not for once said I was going to farm out to Pewpew, but rather you getting trolled by Ryan) EVEN if I threatened to farm them land, did we do it in the end? No, we didnt. Didn't you guys teach us last age that threatening and actually doing it are two different issues? Threatening to double hostile and actually double hostiling AMA, or threatening to dealbreak us to get the B2B clause in place and actually dealbreaking us?

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Lastly, I leave all interested readers some food for thought. CR resetted 2 provinces again in war, after being robbed/NSed/chained by us down to 200 acres, before war ended. Now they sit at >600 acres. So they reset for more resources again in war (for more land, more gold, more soldiers?) after explicitly being told resetting in war for more resources was what forced Bishop's hand in actioning them? War is still ongoing right? How can you reset before war is over?

[flogger]

Proteus, flogger only goes MIA after losing wars(such as to you or spgc). Although that age he was pretty inactive leading up to the war. Think he was busy with work or sometin. Of all the people i've seen in this game Flogger is by far the most hard core active player when active(especially in war) and the most hardcore inactive person when he decides to be so. A man of extremes!

I haven't prepared for a fight since the trollfag age. Once I successfully shut up themango, all my goals were achieved.

[LCP]

Lastly, I leave all interested readers some food for thought. CR resetted 2 provinces again in war, after being robbed/NSed/chained by us down to 200 acres, before war ended. Now they sit at >600 acres. So they reset for more resources again in war (for more land, more gold, more soldiers?) after explicitly being told resetting in war for more resources was what forced Bishop's hand in actioning them? War is still ongoing right? How can you reset before war is over?

You guys NSed/Robbed/chained a 3 days suspended provinces. After the suspend expired and you forbid them to reset?

LOL

[flogger]

Flogger - we didn't know it was them when we waved them. We did when they declared. They had said they wanted a rematch on equal prep, and you can't get much more equal than oop, can you?

He shouldn't have asked and you shouldn't have agreed. I tricks both of yous to being evil cuz I'm like dat. Slowly eating away at your moral fiber until you can't recognize yourself in the mirror.

[13nesta13]

You guys NSed/Robbed/chained a 3 days suspended provinces. After the suspend expired and you forbid them to reset?

LOL

Losing resources (land, troops, gold) to an opponent KD is part and parcel of war. Unless you're trying to dispute this fact, I fail to see where you're coming from. They were actioned with suspension for churning out more resources by resetting right OOP/in war (which I have no idea which is the one Bishop chose to take action over. Was it either/or, or was it both).

That we removed those resources doesn't make it right to reset again, if it were previously deemed wrong.

[flogger]

Havoc gonna Havoc. I think they thought when bishop gave the provinces a punishment, that he didn't really mean for them to deal with the punishment, or something.

[topsy's revenge]

We got approval from Bishop to reset the provs before hand. Also, you don't get more resources by aiding out your resources...you just get them in different places. Best case scenario for this war would have been if we hadn't reset anyone and just had the initial solds on 25 provs. Second best case scenario would have been you guys surrendering before we came oop instead of right after shredding 2 provs so that we wouldn't need to spend our 40 credits. Finally, they ended 600 acres because you guys lost a war inwhich you were fighting 25v23 and where 6 more provs had a massive amount of their troops deleted. Unless you're claiming that warring Pyro is mechanic abuse I'm not sure what you're issue would be with receiving WW.

edit: also, your ub's were broken by ud that never recieved aid. The provs that were initially ub against you were also provs that never recieved aid. Nesta, stop trying to find excuses for your losses(We only robbed 90 million gc not hundreds of million!) and start actually looking at what you do strategically. Unfortuantely it was just bad luck that you chose a setup that demands luck in not getting waved early and got placed 6 hours from us when we just wanted a warring age anywase.

[Darkz Azn]

did u tag oddplay?

[Godly]

This may sound like a troll, but the turning point of the war was legit when they accepted the Godly Gambit.

[LCP]

Losing resources (land, troops, gold) to an opponent KD is part and parcel of war. Unless you're trying to dispute this fact, I fail to see where you're coming from. They were actioned with suspension for churning out more resources by resetting right OOP/in war (which I have no idea which is the one Bishop chose to take action over. Was it either/or, or was it both).

That we removed those resources doesn't make it right to reset again, if it were previously deemed wrong.

Nothing wrong with resetting in war, because there is 3 days protection.

In CR case, they were suspended and got their province stripped off to nothing while they can't do anything. It is perfectly make sense for them to reset once the suspension is lifted

I dont see your point for bringing it up, just look like more QQ

[TheOne]

I believe what Nesta meant to say was that those 2 provinces came out with huge gc (about 1.6mil and 1.8mil), and that CR intra kd stole some gc before resetting them again. Again, it's not up to us but the devs to decide if its legit.

CR warred very well, and would own in both activity and strat against most kingdoms on the server. I am pretty convinced of that. This CR was on 10x the level of the CR we beat 2-3 ages ago. However, I dont think a skilled kingdom like CR should have some of their core members going around bashing others with inflated egos and all, and hence present themselves the way they did in front of the community.

We knew it would be a tough war against the feeding plan of CR, maybe we were too naive or too ambitious, but the least we know is that we wont lose any land in war (we took +1.85k in war). As summed up by Nesta13,

'As far as I'm (or PyroManiaCs is) concerned, if Bishop deemed it was unfair advantage, that unfair advantage was already present for 24 hours and it made all the difference. First from them having that level of military to wave us 7 hours OOP, 2nd from us having to wave down 3 near UB provinces (who would be UB given another 12h of train time had we not chosen to take them down in the first wave) who received the unfair aid in the first wave in war, 3rd from your counter-wave, and 4th, still having the troops right till they were released by Bishop towards the tail-end of our 2nd unique in war. What the release did was to make their first chained 3 provinces in the first unique more susceptible to multi taps in our 2nd unique, and made it easier for us to hit down 1 more province; the one last halfling WH had already retrained much more to break free from our core so that he was already marginal UB (UB to most in our KD except a few) and really OOR of any profitable taps and we couldnt waste hits OOR bringing him down with the war being tight at that point. Then again, like I said, this happened at our tail-end of our 2nd unique, where 75% of our KD has already sent out troops against your provinces pre-Bishopped (can I verb this? lol). So keep thinking it's 17 v 25 war if that's what rocks your boat (exaggeration #2?).'

Once again, congratulations to CR for the victory. It was well won despite having some circumstances turn against you. Level of activity and strategy wise was close to perfect. Pyros will reflect on the mistakes we made and strive to war better in future

Cheers

-cJ

[Godly]

""you guys intra kd stole some gc before resetting them again"

Are you serious!? You guys stole 98%+ of the gc on those provs before we were able to start FGing it because Bishop told us the wrong date they were coming OOP (might be the same bug as the OOP bug where we came out 1 hour early). You guys somehow knew exactly when they were coming out. Is your beef more about kingdoms gaining an unfair advantage or just whatever it takes to try to get us actioned again? Because at this point, you're sounding like a complete baby and need to move on.

"We knew it would be a tough war against the feeding plan of CR, maybe we were too naive or too ambitious, but the least we know is that we wont lose any land in war (we took +1.85k in war). As summed up by Nesta13,"

Had we not run the "feeding plan," you guys would have been destroyed. Utterly destroyed. 25 provs that can 4x + Thieves vs 25 provs that can 2x with no thieves would be a mintime WD losing roughly 3-4k on top of the WW bonus. The only reason you were able to keep this close was actually due to the "feeding plan" gone wrong (the coding change) and then Bishop actioning us on top of it. You had every possible advantage in this war despite running a horrendous strategy.

I suggest focusing more on how to improve your kingdom and less on doing whatever it takes to hurt us so your allies can benefit. I fully expect you to file another report because that's just the kind of kid you are. Just know that we were given the OK to reset those provs by Bishop since at this point our kingdom is running every possible strategy we do by him.

[topsy's revenge]

Bishop approved of anything we did since entering war. Protection is bugged this age and the 2 provs left prot 1 tick early so you guys robbed basically all the gc(our main t/m's was drinking tea.....he's old) We robbed about 25k gc from those 2 provs. However, we robbed/FG'd about 1.2 million of the 3.6 million you robbed.