BB vs PewPew

[Meep]

Pyro can't even declare on pewpew. It has to be via max meter.
Comparing BB vs pewpew to pewpew vs pyro clearly shows you don't understand Utopia.




That was an agreement we made early age. Top was closer together, made sense at the time.
During our hostile with you, Tox asked me for a CF extend with pew. At first didn't want but figured since we'd be busy with you for a while, went with it anyway. At no time on IRC, a top5 clause was mentioned.
Tox msged me for the cf extend on april 15th. Almost 3 days later he pmed me to get it confirmed ingame, that's when he included that term in his mail. Still being busy with havoc, I pretty much blindly replied agreed.
Stupid? Sure.

It's still retarded to try and dodge a kingdom the same size when both kingdoms had plenty of time to prepare, just that pew was too lazy to actually prepare and choose to explore an elf with 2.3wpa on 4700 acres to 6500.

On another note: I asked pew how much time they need to prepare for war. All I get is "its not in our interest to fight u".
Its okay, we'll get to pewpew somehow. Eventually.

Why are you pretending the KDs are the same size or that PewPew would have any chance in this war at all?

Any amount of 'extra time' to prepare is bogus, as it's not like your kingdom is unable to use that extra time as well.

The future in my eyes:

-You war PewPew
-You outnumber pews banks 3v2 so pews banks both end the war at 6-7k. Yours end at 15, 13, and 9
-Your core breaks even, due to playing well, even though their core should be at an advantage over you.
-You end the war at 120k w/ bonus, them at 90k.
-AMA Notices them.
-They try to dodge and war RBL
-Elit decides their war is fake, and therefore he is allowed to take his acres into other people's wars yet again

[John Snowstorm]

Any amount of 'extra time' to prepare is bogus, as it's not like your kingdom is unable to use that extra time as well.

there is a massive amount of diminishing returns on pump time since once you have enough gold to max pump extra gold is superfluous in many situations and can be stolen etc to balance the scales. are we really worried about orc sci here?

source: did it last age

There is no reason why pew pew shouldn't be able to formulate a cogent strategy if they would but pull their heads out of the sand for a few hours and think of strategies that don't involve running away.

[Runefire]

Well then if Pew know there is a diminishing return to pumping, why wouldn't they drag it out as long as possible to get themselves in to a better position?

Who says they have to take a huge sum of land from Pyro?

Isn't that "strategy"?

[goodz]

Well then if Pew know there is a diminishing return to pumping, why wouldn't they drag it out as long as possible to get themselves in to a better position?

Who says they have to take a huge sum of land from Pyro?

Isn't that "strategy"?

doesn't really matter. If your terms say something then they can use them to get the best advantage possible. Even if they think that means waving a KD out of declare range over and over for 2 weeks. Sure they might be wrong but meh.

If they go to war you got to think BB just explores up another bank and then bank war is 4v2 but meh.

maybe they have plan to force max meter on pyro and then war pyro, and then wave cr to prevent notice and give time... who knows!

[Elit]

doesn't really matter. If your terms say something then they can use them to get the best advantage possible. Even if they think that means waving a KD out of declare range over and over for 2 weeks. Sure they might be wrong but meh.

If they go to war you got to think BB just explores up another bank and then bank war is 4v2 but meh.

maybe they have plan to force max meter on pyro and then war pyro, and then wave cr to prevent notice and give time... who knows!

I don't want to be mean....but
In past top KDs give advices to players in random ghettos how to play. Now its reversed!

[khronosschoty]

I don't want to be mean....but
In past top KDs give advices to players in random ghettos how to play. Now its reversed!

loool

[DonJuan]

We won't be warring since all of us have been sci pumping and now have entered fort to get some military in...but it's purely to diminish possible incoming losses

[protector]

Why are you pretending the KDs are the same size or that PewPew would have any chance in this war at all?

Any amount of 'extra time' to prepare is bogus, as it's not like your kingdom is unable to use that extra time as well.

The future in my eyes:

-You war PewPew
-You outnumber pews banks 3v2 so pews banks both end the war at 6-7k. Yours end at 15, 13, and 9
-Your core breaks even, due to playing well, even though their core should be at an advantage over you.
-You end the war at 120k w/ bonus, them at 90k.
-AMA Notices them.
-They try to dodge and war RBL
-Elit decides their war is fake, and therefore he is allowed to take his acres into other people's wars yet again

Not sure if you're trolling or just stupid. If you're not trolling, do yourself a favor and stop posting. It appears every new post you make on this matter just makes you look more dumb ;)

[goodz]

I don't want to be mean....but
In past top KDs give advices to players in random ghettos how to play. Now its reversed!

wasn't advice. Others were giving advice. I was just trying to explain their possible thoughts on waving another kingdom to prevent being noticed. Others were saying it was bad idea... which is likely true to some extent but if they have a long term plan to avoid for a few weeks maybe it works okay

[StratOcastle]

I've got to agree with goodz here. And your PR is slipping gentlemen. - I'm still not convinced that Pew isn't part of an integrated strategy, perhaps unbeknownst? BB vintage 59 with precautions; all the sharp edges removed so we have no Jerks, SWEA repeats.

[Maximouse]

Protector, yes it was silly to agree to it, but it seems you did. So pew2 planned their notice on pyro with perfect timing giving them atleast the time of the notice on pyro as extra preptime . Sucks for BB, but since you agreed on resetting the notice if another notice was given earlier to somebody in the top 5 or CR, guess you now have to be patient a while longer

[Band of Horses]

Protector, yes it was silly to agree to it, but it seems you did. So pew2 planned their notice on pyro with perfect timing giving them atleast the time of the notice on pyro as extra preptime . Sucks for BB, but since you agreed on resetting the notice if another notice was given earlier to somebody in the top 5 or CR, guess you now have to be patient a while longer

Good point, they should have told them prior to cf ending that they were invited to a party, something like this:

Our CF expires JAN01YR6 - we therefore invite you to party!

We will serve your notice on this date, so please do not make other plans.

RSVP before APR01YR6:

Option 01 : Yes please, I will come -- I will bring own beer!
Option 02 : Sorry made other plans, I will compensate you!
Option 03 : I made other plans, but I think I can make both parties!

[Maximouse]

2 completely different situations and CF deals;). From what I heard bb had to retract their notice fi pew2 had allready noticed or gotten notice by somebody else in the top 5 or CR

[Band of Horses]

2 completely different situations and CF deals;). From what I heard bb had to retract their notice fi pew2 had allready noticed or gotten notice by somebody else in the top 5 or CR

That is why they had to send the party invite a few days earlier than the CF end date so PewPew wasn't already in notice. You can trust me I am a doctor.

[Proteus]

That is why they had to send the party invite a few days earlier than the CF end date so PewPew wasn't already in notice. You can trust me I am a doctor.

If havoc was the kd serving notice theyd tell pewpew not to make any other plans because they are coming anyways.