BB vs PewPew

[Binar]

GL getting that Crown :D

[Sheister]

Go Go Binar and crew.

Arctic, hush. A person who led a KD like BiO that had to die by autowin with 4 PK'd provinces to admit they need to stop power-playing should hush up on all discussions of ethics in this game.

[Maximouse]

Elit, you really wanna claim BB-pew2 would be a fair war just cause they are in range? Just look at the provs. Same goes for you demanding a war from rbl. Look at the provs. They stand as much of a chance warring you and winning as 90% of the KD's we CF'd last age.
You both want farmwars or free acres. Same as CR wanted last age. Only difference is last age you cried about it and this age you defend it.

Protector, you would have to ask proteus that since he and other trolls said it was powerabuse. Not me. I am just wondering why nobody from the ama/bb trollsquad complains this age.

[John Snowstorm]

If we were in RBLs provs and they in ours... well you can finish that thought since we were in that position against both of these kingdoms last age and won both times.

We have also given RBL well over a week to prepare when they wouldn't give us a single day.

I think we're being more than nice enough to these particular kingdoms.

[protector]

Elit, you really wanna claim BB-pew2 would be a fair war just cause they are in range? Just look at the provs. Same goes for you demanding a war from rbl. Look at the provs. They stand as much of a chance warring you and winning as 90% of the KD's we CF'd last age.

Really.... really? Why the hell do you keep ignoring the part where I offered them more time? Also, is it our fault they ****ed up their preparation? They choose to vulture ZZ after their hard fought war with WSK, they trained up for that so they could demand free acres from ZZ's bank. After they vultured it for 2500-3000 acres, they still had plenty of time to prepare for us. They didn't.
I'm not DEMANDING a war from them, I'm offering them to either give us some acres for a CF extend or to war us after they are given extra time to prepare. If they didn't do either I just wouldn't extend CF so I could notice them, which I did.

ps. found the logs yet??

[Elit]

Elit, you really wanna claim BB-pew2 would be a fair war just cause they are in range?

Yes its fair war because they are in range. Its dont mean war is even. If one from KDs did better its normal if he win from it. Its not fair when you say: AMA farming last age waring with 10-20% bigger Kds with Cows and we dont have Cow. Do you know why i was ok for hit you when my kd decide it? Because you got chance for war Pyro from same disadvantage AMA had all age and if you win you can war AMA after 8 days, how you proposed from us. So you can experience it from first face how work. Sad i was so busy to make it happening and let n00b CJ get manipulated from you.

[Sheister]

In the abstract, a WAR would be fair. But BB is just giving bounce waves with no real relations from fort. That is not fair. That is disgusting and scum sucker behavior. So they can lose their crown. I think pew is going about this exactly the right way. Congrats Elit, you will likely crown, unless you are a prick to RBL, in which case, hey, CR may have a shot and B2B...... lol I know, I just wanted to say it....

[Shai]

I think Elit summed it up pretty well

Noone did anything wrong. PewPew prepared badly by planning to avoid BB all along then finally deciding to war them, given overdrafted provinces 72h to stock gc while BB been gathering gc for like two weeks. Big misstake from PewPew that either should have dodged BB by go to war with RBL 2 days ago, or agreed to fight BB on a set date from the beginning and prepared for it. Also it doesnt help when one of two cow players goes inactive and starves and then doesnt even prep half well for a fight against 3 other cows.

BB on the other hand played out their setup with bouncing cows perfectly. Kudos so strategical genious (flogger once again shows hes king of meta strategy). But as some people pointed out, if you are already in a much stronger position, trying to make ur position even better might cause the other kd to just back out in an odd way (learn from rage vs pewpew age 57 or when that was).

And the effect bounces have on hostile meter is retarded and need to be changed.

I dont think BB have done anything wrong. They played out their strategy, they gave PewPew both time to prep if they wanted to fight, or a fairly resonable price for a CF, being quite the gentlemen. Who in their position would had done more?

Bounce on meter effect loophole and PewPews poor preperations arent BBs fault.

[Binar]

Doesnt change the fact that BB wont be crowning this age

[protector]

In the abstract, a WAR would be fair. But BB is just giving bounce waves with no real relations from fort. That is not fair. That is disgusting and scum sucker behavior. So they can lose their crown. I think pew is going about this exactly the right way. Congrats Elit, you will likely crown, unless you are a prick to RBL, in which case, hey, CR may have a shot and B2B...... lol I know, I just wanted to say it....

We gave relations 15 hours after notice expires, it's not like we've been playing meter games for 3 days straight.
Based on your dislikes for bouncewaves, I suspect you have the same "hate" for all the warring kingdoms as well who use their spare offenses to bounce their targets unbreakable TMs to eventually get them breakable? It's the same thing.

Its not our not any other kingdoms fault that bouncewaves are effective. FWIW: we lost a bunch of troops bouncing as well. Orcs DO have offensive losses (where undeads did not - major difference)

[protector]

Doesnt change the fact that BB wont be crowning this age

So we're going at it till EOA?

[Froggie]

#NocrownforKuhaN
saD


I don't get why people are so mad. BB and Pew2 are doing what they think is the best strategy for them. No need to hate. Let's all be friends okay?

[Sheister]

Protector,

When Mercy/Havok waved my kingdom having a 15K acre cow and we had none and they were outside of declare range and had 5 unbreakable provinces and we had NOT ONE SINGLE ONE. We still did not bounce.

so yes, you may find this shocking, but I find bouncing targets down to be a scummy scum sucking tactic.

Oh, btw, lets be clear, what you just described is NOT THE SAME THING. They are using their SPARE offense to bounce. That means they already GAVE relations by doing honest successful attacks. So not the same thing at all. You are scummy scummy scummy. YOU send full sends on a cow not even attempting to succeed at anything. Scummy.

Want another example? When pulse decided to bounce my KD we did not bounce them and, you know what I did not have a problem when they did it? why? Because they did it IN WAR when they were avians and we were slow humans. So they sacrificed an entire wave to attempt to bounce a human IN WAR.

There they paid a price for it and I had no problems with it.

To say you are bouncing and not playing relations games is a load of CRAP. Darkie said it himself that it would be foolish to give pew pew relations when instead you could bounce. Call another fairy tale there protector. You won't war unless you feel safe enough to do it. Fine, you don't get a war you can profit from. Pew pew has the knowledge and I hope the will, to make you pay for this with your crown. If you had not been cowardly little maggots and had just warred, you would have profited. Now you can go down. Tox did not run to RBL or other options because he was trying to play with a shred of ethics. You all abused that. So, die the death of all scummy actors and I hope pew pew remembers this forever and will simply make it their mission in life to punish you at every turn.

I know I will never give you all the time of day in anything I do in utopia (though if we ran into each other in a bar I would probably have a beer with you).

[John Snowstorm]

Sheister: if the reason pewpew is intra razing is because they're objecting to bounce wave tactics, why are RBL intra razing?

They intra razed before our CF was even up (lmao)

We gave them over 7 extra days when they gave us 0 last age and they still were too afraid to even engage.

It's proven, pewpew and RBL are not ready for top play, not near.

[Korp]

No wonder Sheister never won anything or isnt a noteworthy person, he seems to fail to grasp the simplest strategys.