CR VS Sleepy

[khronosschoty]

Update:

Net Change -1,337gc.

The game has informed me that I am the opposite of "leet," which I've known all along. However, I'm still attacking, despite CR's apparent attempts to PK me with a bunch of massacres while overpopulated.

TOO funny!

[CannaWhoopazz]

massacres would be a terrible way to kill someone. They are probably trying to prevent you ETing/fireballing upwards since chained provs on like 10 wpa fireball/ET ridiculously well. Since your faes are buggered your best bet to ET is your chained provinces. If you aren't trying this currently you're welcome.

of course we're ETing with chain targets, but I prefer to think of myself such a threat that they're trying to PK me instead though.

[noobium]

sapphire is basically worthless for sleepy's setup against cr's. dunno about emerald though, emerald is pretty rancid without a really good use for it...

[goodz]

sapphire is basically worthless for sleepy's setup against cr's. dunno about emerald though, emerald is pretty rancid without a really good use for it...

Wouldnt it make rogues easier to SW? But yea no dragon is hugely useful against a kingdom with ons of war heroes

[noobium]

last i knew sleepy had a grand total of three rogues and one mystic o_O besides if using sapphire, they'd want to be doing something more substantial than sabotage wizards or ET.

[goodz]

last i knew sleepy had a grand total of three rogues and one mystic o_O besides if using sapphire, they'd want to be doing something more substantial than sabotage wizards or ET.

It also makes the rogues worst at opping :P

[noobium]

cr's halfers give roughly zero ****s about a sapphire dragon, i'm pretty sure.

[CannaWhoopazz]

Forces from Play in a ghetto again () attempted to attack us, but failed miserably!

Not even sure how that happened, didn't even soldier bounce!

[noobium]

fatfingered and forgot to enter armies

[TheOne]

Sure, they could WD up acres. I would assume, however, that if they did that, we would engage to take our land back. So it would probably not be profitable for them to WD up land unless they also made a deal with us as the re-engage would be likely to strongly favor us - moreso than continuing war. Though that's just a guess.

i didnt expect min time to be some time from now, and that will hurt chances of a b2b. it all depends on how much cow acres they can pull off, and 1 of their cow is probably going to be shelled already. in a possible b2b their core will be slightly more superior relatively to your bottom 12, but much more inferior to your elves+halfs (upper core) compared to this war

well its true that they wont be that pumped at all, but this time round... sleepy would be the kingdom in fortified stance post war.. and we know how powerful fortified stance is. though the extra bpa+stronger elves/halves would be hard to deal with.

btw zauper, you owe me 1 :) you know what i'm talking about!

[era]

cr's halfers give roughly zero ****s about a sapphire dragon, i'm pretty sure.

You're right. I would take a saph drake on me 24/7 over having to deal with CS on a prov anyday.

[goodz]

You're right. I would take a saph drake on me 24/7 over having to deal with CS on a prov anyday.

Yea CS+WT is brutal. But a saphire does make a big difference in success rate even if they are having good success. Try proping into 1 way saph even if you have 3x their mod tpa pre saph. Its pretty big success rate change.

Especially since also out of networth range.

[TheOne]

just another thought that came up..

since i been yapping that sleepy might have a chance with b2b with 25 tog-ers, core will be slightly more superior relatively to cr bottom 12, but much more inferior to cr elves+halfs (upper core) compared to this war, and with mechanics forcing a forced 96hrs of CF between cr and sleepy.

i wonder leaving eowcf at 72hrs to explore benefits which side more? you can still be in max fort protection by the 96th hour mark.

cr could be sneaky and also whore their bottom 12, while sleepy can add acres on their bigger avians etc and do soldier pumping on a few provs

i think this war was always going to be difficult for sleepy once CR figured out how to use their elves to massacre the faeries of sleepy though. its just whether the elves could break those faeries at 5k. elves were at like 6k and may not have enough offense.

another question would be whether sleepy can get a complete wave in before CR armies can retal?

[munk]

Snowballing effect has started -- crippled cow now in perfect range for big halflings' prop and is keeping home as he can't send out without leaving too low def.

They're still trying to be annoying with their faeries so we need to keep our ET/SW on them to minimise their damage -- our elves have started gaining land.

We have covered them in storms and with the land changing hands we're starting to get more peasants than them and the unit count is now 1863k (CR) vs 1570kr (Sleepy). The KD NWs reflects this as it's now at 21.485k (CR) vs 19.647k (Sleepy). The NW gap should only increase as we outgain them, get econ and keep op'ing their cows.

The cow fight at this point is still somewhat stalemated as it's 3vs3, tho a great situation for us, since our fear was that they would have capitalised on their huge initial cow advantage.

It's not quite over yet, so it's still interesting :)

Thanks for the great activity CR!

[Zauper]

One thing munk didn't mention:
no snow on the mountain last night :(

Our top two have equal military to their top 2. Our 3rd cow is about 20k military behind theirs; our 4th highest military province (whether you look at the small fae or 8kish halfers) is about 5k military behind the weakest cow in sleepy now.

So all of that military advantage is focused on core.