Proposal to end he Awar

[bitchup420]

You guys get the liberty of exploring freely and running extreme science while the other two kds even within reasonable range (except for expendables) are busy annihilating ourselves, as you said. I think this is a HUGE advantage.

This is not our fault nor what we expected this age. I personally think it would have been fun to war pandas and that pandas should have prepped to fight us. Had pandas not involved themselves their would not have been these advantages you speak of. And who knows pandas may have won and been in the #1 spot being viewed as shady advantage takers. Sillies isn't really trying to be #1. We just ended up here because of shenanigans. Not because we saw shenanigans and took advantage.

[Akkadian/Taylor]

This is not our fault nor what we expected this age. I personally think it would have been fun to war pandas and that pandas should have prepped to fight us. Had pandas not involved themselves their would not have been these advantages you speak of. And who knows pandas may have won and been in the #1 spot being viewed as shady advantage takers. Sillies isn't really trying to be #1. We just ended up here because of shenanigans. Not because we saw shenanigans and took advantage.

I'm not saying its your fault or that you're taking advantage of anything. Its the way things have worked out, and its good for you. And maybe we would've won, maybe we wouldn't have, maybe we can find out in the future. Who knows. All I do know is that us being in this has nothing to do with a goal of being number 1, otherwise, we would have not joined and just pumped and warred you. Being in an awar is directly conflicting with any goals of being 1, I don't know how anyone could think otherwise..

[bitchup420]

It just bothers me that others are saying we are taking advantage of awar to crown. We are staying out of this because we don't want our players to be volunteered for gbs and pks and endless crap on top of not agreeing with either side of this conflict.

[Sheister]

think before you speak.

I have had opportunities to talk to both sides (asf/leshrak & flogger/prot) + godly the past few days, and staying up to 4am just to work something out, but it seems like a diplomatic solution isnt going to be possible. You saying I dont know what either side wants is just lol.

there is more than flogger/prot involved no? Please stop demonstrating how myopic you are. We already know.

at least i'm trying to work something out, and it looks like i'm going to fail.. it's at least better than what you've been doing.

No, you are sticking your nose in where a neutral nose does not belong.

*sarcasm on* yep sillies is pretending to be neutral. yep. definitely. *sarcasm off*

It accomplishes as much useful contribution as your efforts.
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RE all the sillies crowning garbage:

Who cares? This age is not about the crown anymore. Let them have it. It will make Cj even more entertaining.

[Heiney]

Sheister be hating.

[scheffie]

there is more than flogger/prot involved no? Please stop demonstrating how myopic you are. We already know.



No, you are sticking your nose in where a neutral nose does not belong.



It accomplishes as much useful contribution as your efforts.
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RE all the sillies crowning garbage:

Who cares? This age is not about the crown anymore. Let them have it. It will make Cj even more entertaining.

Lol .. so since u completely failed to win a war, get somewhere near a crown or do anything else usefull u decided to keep spitting on cj? Lol to you Sheister! Maybe time to rq again?

[AquaSeaFoam]

Eh, wrong? Our CF expired and moved into notice. They asked for extend, we said we'd want land for an extend or war (we were in each others range). They agreed to war 10 or 11 days later. How is this bypassing a notice deal? We could have hit them 5 days earlier orso if we had not agreed to this deal.
Nice attempt at your typical bull****, but your facts are wrong.

You just admitted it here yourself. You say your cf moved into notice. Neither side gave notice. Emeriti gave notice first. After Emeriti gave notice, Bb then *bypassed their notice* to quick dodge farm war them. Your efforts also helped them deal break us. **** play at it's finest.

[Over]

And sillies?? cj kd?? has grown exponentially more than that.

BB offered nothing.

how is joining an a-war taking advantage of anything?

what notice deal?

Everyone is taking advantage of current events. Some suffers and some are not like in real life.

As we know both warring sides need new blood (military,gold for dragons etc) hence to gain a neutral they will make promotion/offer. It is not different from real life.

For example, banks are calling me to sell new credit cards every day and they give better promotions every time i decline them. Yet they still calling me.

Offer can be tangible or intangible such as some land, some gold or backup of BB for your next war/hostile/pumps etc.

[Akkadian/Taylor]

You just admitted it here yourself. You say your cf moved into notice. Neither side gave notice. Emeriti gave notice first. After Emeriti gave notice, Bb then *bypassed their notice* to quick dodge farm war them. **** play at it's finest.

Again, despite your attempts to refute, last age emeriti did exactly what you are accusing BB of doing.

I point at this:

Just quickly gonna say you escaped into conflict with Pyro 1h b4 we could wave you last age. We had been schoolspumping and rebuilt n drafted up for it. You ruined many days prep for us and this sneaky play was the start of you getting a chance to win the age.

[Akkadian/Taylor]

Everyone is taking advantage of current events. Some suffers and some are not like in real life.

As we know both warring sides need new blood (military,gold for dragons etc) hence to gain a neutral they will make promotion/offer. It is not different from real life.

For example, banks are calling me to sell new credit cards every day and they give better promotions every time i decline them. Yet they still calling me.

Offer can be tangible or intangible such as some land, some gold or backup of BB for your next war/hostile/pumps etc.

I guess i'm not following your point here.

BB offered nothing for Pandas to join.

There was no promotion. There was no offer. There was no lower interest rate or introductory rate/fees waived.

Is there any way for me to be clearer?

[MyNameIsMatija]

This thread seems more and more like a publicity stunt. I have yet to see a step forward to a resolution of these events. All I have seen so far is a borderline insulting "proposal" coupled with further direct insults. I'm sure the leadership on both sides will know what to do and going by this thread is not one of those things.

[Judge]

I guess i'm not following your point here.

BB offered nothing for Pandas to join.

There was no promotion. There was no offer. There was no lower interest rate or introductory rate/fees waived.

Is there any way for me to be clearer?

So BB did not offer you anything as to what you are saying. But CJ did offer u a CF in good faith right?

So now you intend to take land from this GB so u end up bigger than them and then you notice them from a superior position and maybe farm them?

[Akkadian/Taylor]

So BB did not offer you anything as to what you are saying. But CJ did offer u a CF in good faith right?

So now you intend to take land from this GB so u end up bigger than them and then you notice them from a superior position and maybe farm them?

When did CJ offer a cf in good faith?(just want to get timing right here--not saying there wasn't any good faith on his part) Our CF was made long long long time ago and was made in the pretense that we could war on even grounds.

I am still confused how people think that being in an a-war is advantageous for ANYONE. We can't pump science. We can't explore banks. We can't random for acres. We get retalled and OPed a lot.

Meanwhile, sillies (correct me if i'm wrong with these names) gets to random from aggro with orcs, they can run extreme science, they can explore banks freely, and they can pump their faeries.

Science reigns supreme.

I offered a deal to CJ, "in good faith" after we entered this awar and he rejected. So who is wanting to take advantage of who?

[AquaSeaFoam]

delusional too much? the ONLY kds siding with you being your old friends/allies, does not mean the kds siding with bb must be their allies/friends too.. i have made it clear both to asf & leshrak that we arent part of any alliance.. we have only decided to step in after reading logs of your leadership channel, and we are planning to stay in until emeriti admits sending allies to do their dirty deeds, and agree to withdraw from all crowning attempts by razing down their cows and agreeing to stay below an acre cap..

First, the reason FS is helping BB is because last age BB helped FS gb another kingdom who waved FS. FS owed their close friends Bb and there was no way they could say no to them if Bb gave any semblance of a reason at all. Why do you hide this and instead pretend it's some deep moral issue? The truth is you owed Bb for them helping you gb another kingdom last age.

As for other kingdoms helping on both sides, they all have their reasons. I also disagree that "BB won the PR war by out recruiting Emeriti." BB won by having 2 of the top 3 kingdoms already in their alliance before any of this even started. They then secretly planned this for 3 weeks before then deal breaking and gb'd into war with their previously allied kingdom. Emerit's friendly kingdoms were weaker this age with coss having quit sleepy and Pewpew taking the age off. Still some kingdom's like meep's kingdom who were not friendly with Emeriti previously who had never event alked to me before this joined Emeriti to help.

All BB had to do to ensure they "won" this was to gb emeriti together with their ally pyro (2 top 3 kingdoms vs 1) and convince others to not stand up against the injustice. Their success in their deal brake and gb is more to do with their timing and the strength of their friends relative to the strength of Emeriti's friends when they choose to deal break and backstab their competition.

[Judge]

what your kingdom (PANDAmonium) has done the past 1.5 weeks is just hilarious.

we agreed on a yr6+48hrs cf, and both of us stated to each other that we would be staying out of the awar. 24hours after we agreed on our cf, your kingdom waved meep's kingdom for 3.5k acres.. the reason you guys gave was that a stray TM hit from the monarch onto sleepy is an indication that meep's kd isnt involved in the awar. and insisted that your kingdom isnt interfering in the awar. well, in the SN that you took.. there're probably plenty of razes by meeps kd onto pyro then.

you then demanded another 3.5k acres (a total of 7k acres) to stay out of the conflict and CF meep's kingdom. they gave you.

a few days later.. you decided to join/rejoin the awar... and this is when you are a few days off being noticed by my kingdom being in an inferior spot.

my kingdom discussed internally, and we decided to not 'dealbreak' and wave you guys despite how 'dubious' your play has been. we gave you the benefit of the doubt that you guys really hated abs and decided to join the awar cause of that.

i even told flogger that you guys should probably raze that 7k acres off, and my kingdom would raze 3.5k acres off as a form of you showing good sportsmanship..

ermmm Taylor this? So you made a deal with CJ that you will stay out of this and then you are now part of this conflict trying to escape their notice and growing in land? CJ is staying neutral and honoring all deals and you dupe him? Lol!!