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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    First, the reason FS is helping BB is because last age BB helped FS gb another kingdom who waved FS. FS owed their close friends Bb and there was no way they could say no to them if Bb gave any semblance of a reason at all. Why do you hide this and instead pretend it's some deep moral issue? The truth is you owed Bb for them helping you gb another kingdom last age.

    As for other kingdoms helping on both sides, they all have their reasons. I also disagree that "BB won the PR war by out recruiting Emeriti." BB won by having 2 of the top 3 kingdoms already in their alliance before any of this even started. They then secretly planned this for 3 weeks before then deal breaking and gb'd into war with their previously allied kingdom. Emerit's friendly kingdoms were weaker this age with coss having quit sleepy and Pewpew taking the age off. Still some kingdom's like meep's kingdom who were not friendly with Emeriti previously who had never event alked to me before this joined Emeriti to help.

    All BB had to do to ensure they "won" this was to gb emeriti together with their ally pyro (2 top 3 kingdoms vs 1) and convince others to not stand up against the injustice. Their success in their deal brake and gb is more to do with their timing and the strength of their friends relative to the strength of Emeriti's friends when they choose to deal break and backstab their competition.
    Please man, you are supposed to represent the leadership of your KD and all you can do is propel the endless loop of accusations that this forum has become? Nobody wants to hear about this Awar anymore and I can see why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    ermmm Taylor this? So you made a deal with CJ that you will stay out of this and then you are now part of this conflict trying to escape their notice and growing in land? CJ is staying neutral and honoring all deals and you dupe him? Lol!!
    We never made any agreement with ANYONE to stay out of the a-war. Our initial stance was that we would not get involved--so yes, we told CJ and many others including ASF and BB that we were going to stay neutra--which we WERE going to.

    However, our stance changed. I think we reserve the right to change our minds as new facts (or old facts that we did not know about because we are a new kingdom filled with players who have not played in many many ages) come to light.

    How did I "dupe" CJ?

    How are we trying to "escape notice?" Our provs are going to be extremely beat up after this and I presume sillies will "take advantage" of this and notice us immediately upon hearing that the a-war is over. I'm not sure how this gives us any advantageous position.

    The deal that I offered cj after we entered the a-war was that in the event that SOMEHOW we come out of this thing in an advantageous position that we would allow things to be fair. He declined.

    I know nothing about this proposal to flogger.

    And I should add if you want a deal that directly affects my kingdom in such a way, you should talk to someone from my kingdom, not someone from another kingdom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    Why did flogger lie?
    Flogger has already been caught in proven lies elsewhere in the threads including by Leshrak. The irony is one of his excuses for his deal break and gb is that Leshrak lied to him about knowing bour's loc YR0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge View Post
    ermmm Taylor this? So you made a deal with CJ that you will stay out of this and then you are now part of this conflict trying to escape their notice and growing in land? CJ is staying neutral and honoring all deals and you dupe him? Lol!!
    You have no game understanding if you think Pandamonium gains something out of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkadian/Taylor View Post
    How are we trying to "escape notice?" Our provs are going to be extremely beat up after this and I presume sillies will "take advantage" of this and notice us immediately upon hearing that the a-war is over. I'm not sure how this gives us any advantageous position.
    Can we then assume that your "alliance" will not step in or attempt to help/powerplay cj's kd when the awar ends and notice is served? There's more then one way to "escape" really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam View Post
    First, the reason FS is helping BB is because last age BB helped FS gb another kingdom who waved FS. FS owed their close friends Bb and there was no way they could say no to them if Bb gave any semblance of a reason at all. Why do you hide this and instead pretend it's some deep moral issue? The truth is you owed Bb for them helping you gb another kingdom last age.
    BB bouncewaved one province last age for us, cause that KD kept hitting for days into our hostile and we were tied up and didnt wanted to give them relations.
    There was no gb on them, bb razebounced third of an army from their biggest guy and they jumped in war with another ghetto and we were free to continue with our business.

    If you allready take liberties with interpreting our motives, dont do the same with facts please.

    We are friendly and they did us a favor, that in no way entitles them to just call on us as they see fit to do their bidding.

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    The fact that Pyro is BB's main ally in their so-called war against dirty play is so ironic I giggle

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    I thought it was quite obvious that everything I did was so that Abs alliance would continue to post and spin lies and propo (and piss off the cheaters in the process). It was quite effective, especially when the real logs were posted. When your only defense was "Coincidences" all we could do was laugh.

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    Theres is nothing wrong with waving a KD with no diplo ties. Eat the wave if not ready and acres are exchanged. You dont see meep crying about the 7k they lost. Man up and less QQ.

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    You have no game understanding if you think Pandamonium gains something out of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghetto_King View Post
    Theres is nothing wrong with waving a KD with no diplo ties. Eat the wave if not ready and acres are exchanged. You dont see meep crying about the 7k they lost. Man up and less QQ.
    huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheffie View Post
    Lol .. so since u completely failed to win a war, get somewhere near a crown or do anything else usefull u decided to keep spitting on cj? Lol to you Sheister! Maybe time to rq again?
    Spitting on Cj?

    you have no idea what I am about scheffie.

    Cj has been spitting at nesta and everyone who remained behind since he left. He has trolled and provoked us all since he left. He then threw a drama queen fit in these forums at the end of last age when we waved. He then used our waving as justification to circumvent a removal of his access in our private IRC and query our bot to steal intel/loc information. He then entered into a CF with us and spit at us again while doing so to claim he is being gracious.

    I spit at Cj.....?

    He then makes a grand stand of staying neutral while posting a god knows how many word post about how he thinks emeriti is right. He then tries to broker a "peace" after flogger posts the logs and evidence by being "neutral".


    I spit at Cj?

    No, Cj spits and me and everyone else in pyro because he is still a little kid who needs to try to demonstrate that he is better than Nesta. I don't know if he is or is not. He puts forth a lot of effort. He was instrumental to pyro's past success. He still can't accept that he was part of a team and respect that. He never has and he never will.

    I don't spit at Cj. I am disgusted by his behavior since he left and would like him to just make a clean break and leave it alone instead of butting in and acting like a 15 year old girl in a bad high school break-up.

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    The fact that Pyro is BB's main ally in their so-called war against dirty play is so ironic I giggle
    If Attilla the Hun were BB's ally it would not make them any less right. Emeriti is wrong and has been wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akkadian/Taylor View Post
    Again, despite your attempts to refute, last age emeriti did exactly what you are accusing BB of doing.
    Taylor, your definition of exact is much different from mine. Emeriti gave Pyro notice as per their agreement and did not bypass any notice. They also did not war Simians target and did not help any kingdom deal break Simians.

    That said, they did dodge Simians by warring a kingdom with whom their cf ended sooner. I don't agree with the dodging personally, but no it was not very close at all to "exactly". I'm not saying Simians were treated well, but that has nothing to do with BB.

    BB claims that they didn't **** play Emeriti first, but the truth is that yes they certainly did. Bb also tries to hide that 4 Bb members read and did not respond to Bour's ingame messages asking for a cf or to talk to a Bb leader before he hit. Bb also tries to hide that Bour immediately offered all land back plus extra right from the start for a cf.

    When BB rejected this, Bour then offered Bb extra gc in addition to the free land and even a fake hostile to help them get extra time to prepare for emeriti. BB tried to hide this because had they jsut accepted any one of these offers (initial cf, cf for land back plus extra, or cf for land back plus extra plus gc plus fake hostile) then bb would have been unhurt or even in stronger position relative to emeriti. This is not convenient for their narrative so they try and hide it and lie about it (see flogger) and distract from it.

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    Play the huh what role all you want.
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    huh?

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    Lol what a waste.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheister View Post
    Spitting on Cj?

    you have no idea what I am about scheffie.

    Cj has been spitting at nesta and everyone who remained behind since he left. He has trolled and provoked us all since he left. He then threw a drama queen fit in these forums at the end of last age when we waved. He then used our waving as justification to circumvent a removal of his access in our private IRC and query our bot to steal intel/loc information. He then entered into a CF with us and spit at us again while doing so to claim he is being gracious.

    I spit at Cj.....?

    He then makes a grand stand of staying neutral while posting a god knows how many word post about how he things emeriti is right. He then tries to broker a "peace" after flogger posts the logs and evidence by being "neutral".


    I spit at Cj?

    No, Cj spits and me and everyone else in pyro because he is still a little kid who need to try to demonstrate that he is better than Nesta. I don't know if he is or is not. He puts forth a lot of effort. He was instrumental to pyro's past success. He still can't accept that he was part of a team and respect that. He never has and he never will.

    I don't spit at Cj. I am disgusted by his behavior since he left and would like him to just make a clean break and leave it alone instead of butting in and acting like a 15 year old girl in a bad high school break-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombdigie View Post
    I thought it was quite obvious that everything I did was so that Abs alliance would continue to post and spin lies and propo (and piss off the cheaters in the process). It was quite effective, especially when the real logs were posted. When your only defense was "Coincidences" all we could do was laugh.
    bombdigie you post lies because it's all you have. I had already admitted and apologized for the content of those logs from early on and offered BB whatever they needed to make up for any harm (plus more) from the situation even though the actual harm fromt eh situation just resulted form Bb's decision to refuse to cf bour and not just take the free land and more he was offering them for a cf.

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