Proposal to end he Awar

[vir]

And vir, don't make me go get logs (and yes, they are in swedish)


And lastly, we were prepping for you. We would not have noticed pyro if it it wasn't for you. And yes I said you didn't have to draft for nothing. That means it was your own choise to draft for nothing. I did my part telling you that we wouldn't notice you and that we wouldn't fight you if you noticed.

So could you please explain for me then why you didnt just tell me when i asked you several times to just be clear "yes we will war pyro instead so you wont be able to notice us" or just say "we will run" i mean i would just have let the cf run on until later (which is what happened anyway) but we would have been able to have normal talks like normal people.

Dont you think saying "yeah we are prepping for you" "we rather take a wave" etc all kinda hints at you guys maybe not running? I cant even see the reason for doing it like you did except wasting some gc but instead just next time we will not give you a cf as easy as we did earlier that age, now i quit anyway so it wont matter but i dont know, keeping normal relations with people just dont suit the absers, they just have to do the shady move every time. You screwed over all our possible future talks for the gain of us drafting and converting? Not a very sustainable strat..

[Mithras]

We will police ourselves to the standards set by the community

I lol:ed. Let the mayhem begin.

[Zauper]

You have been disingenuous in every "apology" you've given. Please review the link.

Examples of bad apologies:
We're sorry we did a bad thing but BB did a bad thing a few ages ago!
We're sorry you overreacted.
We're sorry but..... [anything]

Example of a good apology:
We're really sorry about what we've done. It was extremely wrong and it has understandably scarred our reputation in the community. We hope that with removing ourselves from the race and focusing on good moral play you will in time forgive us for what we've done. We promise it will not happen again. We will police ourselves to the standards set by the community and the play that we wish to see in it. We understand winning at all costs is costly for all and we will stand along side the community in setting a higher standard for competitive play. We throw ourselves on the community's mercy and hope to see a brighter tomorrow in Utopia.

I'm sorry that you are not a longneck!

[Sheister]

....................
with everything being said. emeriti has the best roster out there. and have very good warring abilities with top tier leaders. they really shouldnt be that afraid if bour get farmed etc. they have enough skill/activity to take on any kingdom 1v1.. why put your kingdom in a possible 'shady' spot when you can outright own your competition 1v1? so what if bour really gets 'farmed' by BB. should have openly declared that you dont approve of bour razing into eowcf (like what Godly has mentioned)

Which you may note IS a valid defense to a conspiracy. To bring the act to light and take actions to stop it. Emeriti did not, ergo, no defense available on this front.

[tetley]

I'm sorry that you are not a longneck!

Rofl!

Which you may note IS a valid defense to a conspiracy. To bring the act to light and take actions to stop it. Emeriti did not, ergo, no defense available on this front.

The defense of abandonment is available in Canada for inchoate offenses if you have a change of heart and express in a clear and timely fashion that you are withdrawing from the common purpose

[Sheister]

yes tetley, and they did not.

[Mithras]

So could you please explain for me then why you didnt just tell me when i asked you several times to just be clear "yes we will war pyro instead so you wont be able to notice us" or just say "we will run" i mean i would just have let the cf run on until later (which is what happened anyway) but we would have been able to have normal talks like normal people.

Dont you think saying "yeah we are prepping for you" "we rather take a wave" etc all kinda hints at you guys maybe not running? I cant even see the reason for doing it like you did except wasting some gc but instead just next time we will not give you a cf as easy as we did earlier that age, now i quit anyway so it wont matter but i dont know, keeping normal relations with people just dont suit the absers, they just have to do the shady move every time. You screwed over all our possible future talks for the gain of us drafting and converting? Not a very sustainable strat..

Ok, here are the things I said to you:

"nah, you look scary" (on the direct question if we were ok with war)
"Every time I contact you about a cf extention you disapear"
"My guess when we made the cf was that we'd need another weeks pump to be able to fight"
"we could take one fight each now and cf to about y10 and see were we stand then"
(you say you will push the fight anyway)
"I need to come up with a plan to dodge you in that case"
(you say "dodge a hostile?")
"yeah, we can't take a fight with you right now"
"It's a no win scenario for us"
(you say that the option is cf for land)
"that is also a bad option"
"If I had an option that would please you I would naturaly suggest it"
"But a war is a horrible options and I wont give away acres"
"I don't think we'll find a sulotion that suits us both when I want to extend and you want to bully us for acres"
"we want to extend so draft for nothing really isn't something you need to do"
(you say that you need acres)
"We need acres too so giving them to you is counterproductive"
(you ask how a wave is better than cf for acres)
"Someone taking acres from me is alot more honest than me giving them away"
(you say ok, then we'll hit you in three days, ok?)
"No that's not ok"
"You are not prepared to give me anything I'm asking for so what part of this would be ok to me?"

Please inform me of wth you I could have said to make my point any clearer? To ask me to say "just say you will dodge" when that was exactly what I did just tells everyone that what I said was completely irrelevant since you weren't listening anyway.

[Anri]

You do need to read the logs since you are accusing emerit of changing agreed deals and you think that we agreed to give Simians a prov crown. A simple read through the logs will prove that neither actualy happened and we can put a silly discussion to bed.

Terrible.

It was clear for many days that we discussed how much acres to give to Emeriti to get prov crown and not war BB and also have BB give up on the prov crown they could have got. BB agreed to get out of the race and do nothing only if Simians got the prov crown for our achievements. We told ASF a bunch of times we want to disband gracefully and since Emeriti won the age much by dodging Simians at least two times and getting CP farmwar it was not more then fair to us to at least let Vir finish as #1. This was everything we talked about for a long time. ASF was about to agree to take 10k acres to let us just leave walk over and get the prov crown. Dorje came along many times and ruined the talk.

Mithras you were not there. The exact context of BB getting out of the race and Simians not waving BB for war etc was not written down in the deal but everyone knew what the hell we were dealing with.

This is so typical absalom behavior.
If this deal had been between other KDs in the top it had been simple and you would not have stole the prov crown from us like the most greedy players on the server. No one had acted like a lawyer and endless of talk would not have been needed. Just look at this topic. You spin your **** like never before.

I think when the explore was done at least ASF understood what went wrong. It was simple miscommunication, you used our good faith in honoring the deal to rape the prov crown from under our nose. ASF did offer us to get NW prov crown at this point in time. This is when i really raged out because we took enough **** over last age when we should have finished you earlier in the age without a doubt, we played you nicely and got nothing but **** back all the way to the end, so i sworn to get revenge on Emeriti and i told ASF this.

And people like me, well, what can i say, i did not play 60 ages to end by getting ****ed by Dorje.
I get my revenge eventually and what time is better then now.

[Mithras]

I have read the logs. Stop doing diplo for 24h straight. Your head gets muschy. Emeriti never agrees to giving Simians a prov crown. You can feel exactly how you want to about it but there is nothing there and wishing power alone wont make it so.

It's not even misleading.

[Sheister]

You guys can't compete with Anri (nor can I). He not only has a beautiful dog, he also has a friesian.

he wins.

*edit*

and he also apparently fly fishes which means he is superior to all others. (fly fish too but I deliver the fly like a 2x4 hitting the water).

[Mithras]

Starting to realise how this abs hate came about. Ppl imagined things and when it turns out to be dreams you assign blame without telling anyone that can set you straight.

Coming to think of it, that also explains why ppl are so careful to write stuff down and get them confirmed.

Read the logs. It's almost 24h nonstop of stalling and threats about farming out to someone else, how you can notice out of war while no one can notice you into war and so on in absurdum.

[Sheister]

Mithras,

Do you even fly fish bro?

[Leshrak]

You guys can't compete with Anri (nor can I). He not only has a beautiful dog, he also has a friesian.

Are you sure?!?



This is now dog thread.

[Squee311]

BB was offered acres from Bour wich they accepted and from Emeriti to compensate. They also got the time and a cf they wanted. After this BB was asked (5 times according to flogger) if that was enough to compensate for any wrongdoings. Had they asked for more, they would have gotten more. So any argument that BB was hurt in their prep for emeriti is bogus. It was all offered compensation for. BB actively chose the dealbreak because it was more benefitial to them than a fair fight.

really... year 4 is year 2? I mean they had all intention of not CFing you at all and engaging you. Stop the BS ploy

[Anri]

I have read the logs. Stop doing diplo for 24h straight. Your head gets muschy. Emeriti never agrees to givining Simians a prov crown. You can feel exactly how you want to about it but there is nothing there and wishing power alone wont make it so.

It's not even misleading.

The diplo went on for days and the agreement to give us prov crown acctually happen the moment we promised not to wave and war BB and the moment BB said they wont try to get the prov crown. You rather had ended up fighting Simians and BB eoa? This was part of the deal and all the rest of the dip was only a question about how much acres do we give to Emeriti to get the prov crown in exchange. That you need every little bit of talk written down to ingame and confirmed is a ****ing joke. This should not even been an issue. It was dead clear to Simians and BB what the deal was about. Its strange that Emeriti did not understand or interpute our talks the same way. But we should have expected it. We acted in good faith of the abs community. We had no real reason to believe you would act shady and steal our prov crown.

Then you ask yourself why people GB your KD and why most of the community on the forums is against you right now.
How about you rethink the moves you pulled last age and this age and come to sense. The closest i got to someone from Emeriti saying they are sry is ASF offering nw prov crown to us and also ASF saying "we might not treated Simians to fair". Something along those lines.

Its sickens me to hear your BS non stop.