The longer this thread goes on, the clearer it becomes to me. Emeriti/Absalom players are well aware that the tactics they used this age, and for all of time, are shady and manipulative of the Utopian community. Their stance is simply to deny wrongdoing, offer their own carefully crafted point of view that absolves them of guilt, and repeat it ad infinitum. They are not here to have a logical debate on the morality of their actions. At best, they are trolls. You can all keep arguing with them as much as you want, it's somewhat entertaining. The reality is that the evidence is already present in the thread, and anyone who takes the time to read it will not have trouble coming to a conclusion. Despite the nonstop pleas of innocence from ASF, Mithras, and others, it appears that the jury has given it's verdict and the judge has ordered punishment. As Emeriti refuses to accept the terms of it, the executioner(s) must continue to carry it out.