Maybe you should fly to sweden and gang bang him then for not giving in to your demands of a foot message.
The point is that you DID get what you wanted related to Bour. You didn't get Emeriti to agree to raze down and not compete in YR1. Even though they did agree to give BB whatever BB needed to ensure BB was not hurt from Bour, and you did get Bour's punishment that you wanted but these things were not enough so you deal broke and gb'd into war.
Last edited by AquaSeaFoam; 25-06-2015 at 19:15.
We wanted bour dead, how'd we get that?
I assume you're just trying to spam away the logs showing you caught lying. For the last time, you and I had very long conversations about you opening up that your actual demands were that Emeriti raze down and drop out of competition to BB could go for the crown against wsk and Coss and whoever else.
In our long conversations we discussed how this was very disproportionate to what happened and how when previous **** went down usually nothing was fixed like when **** happened to emeriti, but in the best cases the normal approach was to fix the situation and Emeriti was offering whatever was needed to fix it. We also discussed how forcing a kingdom to give up the age in YR1 was equivalent to basically disbanding them. You point out how I could just build a new kingdom again after quickly and I pointed out that I wasn't even playing and didn't have the time to do that. We discussed this in great depth for hours.
Now you come to the forums and try and claim that you never discussed anythign about emeriti taking punishments with me and claim our last diplo conversation was just you asking for punishments for bour. I proved this to be a lie with logs and now you seem to be jsut trying to spam it off before too many people read it.
As for Bour, you said you wanted acre caps on all the provinces in his kingdom. He agreed to that and took BB's 1000 acre caps. Keep in mind that before the razes he had the #1 prov and several kingdom mates were top 15. He willingly took the punishments BB wanted on his whole kingdom in addition to giving you back ~3x the amount of land you had razed.
Can you quote my post where I said we never discussed emeriti taking punishments?Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Flogger why are you using so few words? It's prolly 50k vs 200 words in asf favor now :(
As I posted with the logs, you initially brought up bour taking punishments. I said "Try working something out with him and if not successful, let me know and I will try and help". An hour later you got home and we continued talking on IRC.
You then said:
<flogger> and I appreciate your general honesty when we talked earlier, but I'm willing to open up and say what it is that I want to resolve the current issue since I could honestly care less about bourreau's ghetto.
<flogger> all I want is an apology, an admission of what happenned, and I want the punishment being they don't go for the crown
<flogger> this is the heart of our diplomacy
<flogger> I want to quit, leave our kd to our brand new monarch to learn, fight, and probably lose
<flogger> and leave this age to like WSK, coss, our new nub without me and whoever else wants to crown
We then discussed this for a long time. From this point onward you never wavered in your demand that you would not accept anything that didn't include Emeriti razing down and dropping out of competition. You flat out stated that this was your real demands and punishment of Bour didn't matter to you. You are now lying and trying to claim that you didn't actually make demands on Emeriti and all you wanted was bour to be punished.
Bour was punished, he gave you 3x the land back you lost and he agreed to restrict his whole kd to size caps set by BB of 1000 acres. Still things did not end because your real demands (that you are strangely denying now) were that Emeriti raze down and give up the age in YR1.
If this false information you are saying was just poor memory by you, then any reasonable person would have admitted they remembered wrong and apologized and moved on. Instead you keep trying to weave a web of lies to cover the lies you were caught in.
So I didn't mention emeriti in my texts? Do you also not understand what "if I recall means"?
Here, I will repost for you:
I don't talk to french people
Lol .. after 70 pages you come with that! I bet you are drinking Oranjeboom and its getting into your head. I have that sometimes aswell :P
It didn't take me forever to accept anything, I went on irc right after I read your ingame proposition. Then, when my steward declared, YOU postponed the discussions, not me. In fact, I was trying to close the deal with both you and flogger.
Also, we started discuting the number of acres before my steward declared, so what you posted is incorrect, go re-read your log.
Finally, you never ASKED for cow land or any economic compensation. If you wanted that, you should have asked for that...
Gosh, and flogger is saying we're doing bad diplomacy.
Bour why dont u just shut up in this. Your in a ghetto who bit over more than he can chew. Your kd could never give back bank acers to us. You made sure u didnt get into that posision by doing a friendly war with somone u know. We realised this when we messaged them and asked them about the war.
I'm not friendly with the kingdom that waved us, I didn't even know who they were. Stop spreading lies. If you know who they are, their monarch can come confirm thi.s
Also, it would have been quite easy for me to feed you bank acres considering I was still 2k acres, had 4 days of eowcf has dwmerch on low draft. When I got oow, I explored 1k acres and still had millions more gcs to spend, all I needed to do was train some elites. It would have been INCREDIBLY easy for me and my kingdom to feed you cows' acres, but you never showed any interest in that.
maybe becasue your delay made those cow acers worthless ? up to 2k acers isnt worth as much a week after the start.
First you complain that you didnt get any cow's acres back and now you're saying the cow's acres are worthless? Maybe you should make up your mind.
Also, I didn't delay. Protector delayed ~60h after my initial proposal. He delayed again after war was declared by my steward. When war was over, I asked if he wanted us to drop eow early and he said no.
Also, you didn't answer my question about your lie saying I arranged a friendly war. Do you know who is the kingdom that waved us? If you do, can you get the monarch to post here to confirm your lies?
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