Proposal to end he Awar

[IrGr8Nublet]

I actually smiled for you here. Not saying whatever leshrak has posted is true/false, but you actually can be a real nice guy :)

And yea. Oh well. The worst part of uto is all the diplo talks that take eons..

So wouldnt the best solution be to remove cfing from the game? make all kds grow a pair or at the very least let them decend?

[Persain]

I apologize to any relevant parties that the thread diagress quite a bit to pandas - crazies and is taking attention away from the main gist of this thread which is proposal to end awar.

Naw....you haven't taken any attention with jdorje's post the point he was making is that crazies v pandas is just as relevant to the awar as any other fight since the BB side is going to not act as a real alliance and "needs" the fight to continue untill all their kds get what they want (panda's farming u is part of that).

[Palem]

Don't forget FS farming as much honor as they can for free.

Yes, some of us see you FS ;)

[scheffie]

Because TheOne does whats best for his KD. Being neutral, pump freely and get into OP position to fight the KDs after awar. In attempt to secure #1 position more safely.

Best for our kd would have been to war you guys! You however decided to dodge us and shelter behind BB. You forced us into that decision. It's absolute BS to use that now. You guys are soo low.

[Darklove]

The onus is not on us to end this "alliance war". We, ironically, do have an alliance, and one whose resolve - and ethics - have only been hardened by this bull****.

Nice of you dorje to confirm that Emeriti is indeed in an alliance.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Don't forget FS farming as much honor as they can for free.

Yes, some of us see you FS ;)

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

[cRs]

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

amen to that! :) long live warring kds without all the politics involved and ****play. 1v1 wars FTW! :)

[scheffie]

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

You are not in FS right? Just justifying this GB for your allies? It's pretty humble but all the personal gains are becoming more and more clear. It's also a bit obvious that BB is really silent to critical questions asks by the rest of the server. Can't wait for protector/flogger to clear some things up here.

[jdorje]

[10:30] <stefan192> killing an 2,5 mil books prov was unnecesary

I'm sorry, but what? You broke an eoa ceasefire to wave meep for acres, claiming to be doing so justified by the alliance war, and you want reparations for all the damage done to you so as to make sure you actually profit from your dealbreak? Jesus dude.

Your side failed it so hard that's all there's left to it. What did you think? That after winning the first conflict the winning side would just stop there? I'm sure that's what your ethics driven leadership would do if the roles were reversed.

We never had an alliance before, so yes it was just a gb. We never expected to win against bb/pyro/jerks/fs, but we did. Then you (pandas), who had already gotten a free wave from meep on the condition that you stay out of the war, broke your word a second time and entered the war. You've gained how many acres from this by breaking your deals? With what justification? Please explain.

If our roles were reversed our alliance leadership would make reasonable ceasefires with every kingdom. We would not have to go consult every involved kingdom first to make sure they were happy with the acreage they ended at.

FWIW if your alliance is falling apart, you are free to make individual ceasefires with us as well. The same deal offered to flogger will be offered to you.

I would be proud to screw Emeriti and i would also be razing them down in attempt of put them all on 400a until Dorje and the rest had apologized to moi right here in the forums for last age ****play.

You can't apologize for something you didn't do, Anri. You may feel free to apologize to me for all the times you ****played Sanctuary over the ages though.

Nice of you dorje to confirm that Emeriti is indeed in an alliance.

Yes, prior to this gb we were stupid enough to try to go independent. We held ourselves to a higher standard than other kingdoms at the top - no farming of gold or acres from our allies, for instance, and when we did make a mistake as with the raze on BB compensation was immediately offered. We've now realized the error there; trying to deal with flogger in good faith and without an alliance to back us up was a huge mistake. The game without alliances is most fun, but it's unstable because one alliance can simply be assembled to win the game and without more alliances to stop it they will inevitably succeed.

The most stable state, btw, is three alliances. That way if one of them does bull**** like this the other two will put an end to it. If one alliance actions another they'd better have a damn good justification to keep the third alliance neutral.

FS joined the awar because the general consensus in FS was that fights in Utopia shouldn't be about calling your friends to help you. Keep it a clean 1KDvs1KD and none of this would ever have happened.

Yet again, I call bull****. Why are you not gb'ing pyro for farming gold to fight us last age? Why are you not gb'ing bb for accepting the acre compensation offered for the bour raze, and then pumping on those acres to dealbreak later and wave into war? Is it, maybe, because you are allied to BB and not to us? I'll grant that FS and Jerks are not motivated by greed the way Pyro, WSK, and Pandas are, but you still aren't doing this because it's the right thing.

[Korp]

no farming of gold or acres from our allies,

Thats not true, you yourself in person set the standard of gold farming allies. Why do you keep forgetting to br i ng that up? Why are you so hypocritical?

but it's unstable because one alliance can simply be assembled to win the game and without more alliances to stop it they will inevitably succeed.

*cough*Absalom*cough*

[Mike^]

lol at crying CJ, you keep your acers in pyro you are the last one to talk about removing acers.
haha ......

Again since when did you ever to have to remove acers or honor you took in a awar, i for sure know abs was never big on this no war cov, nox or what ever names was, who just invented that crap, in an awar everything go you win and loose what ever happends, or will you also now give me my acers back i lost ?, my 4-5 killed province will i get the acers back, i mean aint that fair ?

..... Useless nubs all around.

[Judge]

Nice of you dorje to confirm that Emeriti is indeed in an alliance.

Out of everything, you chose to reply on that sentence..

You and your alliance have just become as the new "Do our way or the highway" party?

I have been asking questions since right from start..

1) Pyro took help of an outside kingdom to fight a war against Emeriti. Isent that cheating? Still you guys didnt action them cos there was no harm to you. Why take help of a cheater to induce Fair Play?
2) Why is Stefan asking land for cf? In this GB your kingdom who conspired all this have been saying all along that this is to teach Emeriti just a lesson then why are you guys using the land to get into an advantage against kingdoms who have stayed neutral?
3) Why is Simians using the land to to get an advantage over Crazies. Why do they have half a billion gc stocked + schools(pumping upto rushed science) and exploring acres by hiding behind awar?
4) Why is FS using this fight to honor whore in order to win the honor charts?
5) Why was there not a temporary CF where talks were nearly finalized with flogger which later turned that Protector again falling back to the same old ridiculous demands..
6) When will Flogger and co stop their false propoganda where the real deal was just to GB a kingdom and gain land on you and your allies?

We were wrong and we got actioned. Now you are going to make the rules of how everyone will work their way off?

[Over]

Why is BB silent and mostly Panda's talking?

Are all BB players celebrating birthday? If yes, they are missing fun!

[Over]

Maybe because "alliance" is getting out of control now?

loled at personal kd demands from Emeriti.

[IrGr8Nublet]

lol at crying CJ, you keep your acers in pyro you are the last one to talk about removing acers.
haha ......

Again since when did you ever to have to remove acers or honor you took in a awar, i for sure know abs was never big on this no war cov, nox or what ever names was, who just invented that crap, in an awar everything go you win and loose what ever happends, or will you also now give me my acers back i lost ?, my 4-5 killed province will i get the acers back, i mean aint that fair ?

..... Useless nubs all around.

completely agree here he should have kept his spine and joined the awar for his kds benefit or at the very least deal broken the kd that is using the awar to pump.