I got time to do a proper reply now.Originally Posted by Sofs1
#1: I just checked http://umunk.net/tf/ , and from what the graphs show.. only 1 of your banks got LL.. He basically explored from 3796 acres to 7597 acres in the midst of an AWAR.
When is the best time to LL an explored province and gain the maximum amount of acres? Right after the explore is done. I dont know how much FBs really got done.. But honestly, if I wanted Emeriti to help me in cRAZiEs - Pandas conflcit after awar, I would think a full blown LL on that wpa-less human cow is better than FBing.. It is just incredible that you are blaming cRAZiEs when your high risk high reward move of preparing cows in the middle of the conflict got back-fired?
#2 Here's the timeline of the awar, and when notice was officially served
May 19th, Yr 4 : Pandas left fort at 61861 acres, and went into aggresive stance waving meep's kingdom (an AWAR kd on Emeriti's side) for 3.5k acres. A CF deal was made for another 3.5k acres (total 7k acres). I dont know what the actual terms of the CF are, but I doubt it's a 'blank cf'
Feb 20th, Yr 5: Pandas left fort into normal stance, and started joining/rejoining the awar as 1 of the kingdom alongside BB&friends
June 2nd, Yr 5: And Justice For All (Panda faery) explored
July 21st, Yr 5: Destination Triangle (Panda faery) explored. 32 Caliber Long Rifle (Panda faery) explored
January 19th, Yr 6: Bhumibol Adulyaedj (Panda faery) explored. Agadez (Panda faery) explored
Feb 20th, Yr 6: Midgets are back (human) explored
Mar 21st, Yr 6: Divinity (Emeriti's side) got declared on by WSK (BB's side). This left with only 1 kingdom on Emeriti's side that wasnt in a war. Emeriti themselves
April, Yr 6: Serious talks between flogger & Emeriti at around April 11-12th about a diplomatic solution to the end of the awar. A strong skeleton was drafted up, and both parties agreed to most terms but just need some finalizing with the respective kingdoms invovled. Flogger logged off and passed it on to protector to finish up the diplo terms. Protector took over diplo at around April 23rd, and tried to finish up the diplo terms.
However, there were 2 reasons why the diplomatic solution didnt go through.. and the main reason was because Pandas didnt agree to Emeriti not wanting to eoacf kingdoms involved in the awar that wanted to crown. Emeriti requested a duration + notice CF. Pandas didnt accept this. Honestly, it is a trivial matter. I dont think Emeriti will notice from a 40% land size towards the end of the age. Awar continues
May 3rd, Yr 6: Emeriti got declared on by FS. Panda collected their last ~2.5k trad march acres from the awar. There are no more kingdoms who can op or attack pandas oow.
June 2nd, Yr 6: Pandas entered fort, and dropped all their offensive buildings, and swaped into pumping buildings
June 13th, Yr 6: ASF & Emeriti finally agreed to eoacf Pandas and tidied up most of the diplomatic solution with Flogger. It was at this moment where I found out that Pandas actually had more bpa than cRAZiEs.
June 24th, Yr 6: cRAZiEs issued a 6 days notice to Pandas, and this 6 days was already agreed on during mid of April yr 6. Initially, both kingdoms only had a yr 6 +48hrs notice.
Please tell me which date did you read the 'awar was over' and who op-ed Pandas at that period of time. In addition, please let me know what hits were made by pandas when you read that 'awar was over'
Honestly, 6 days notice from June 24th is a very fair deal to Pandas. You basically had at least 46 hours of not being op-ed by anyone on Emeriti's side.. And prior to this date, you already have your faeries doubled/explored up (between June Yr 5 to January Yr 6) and pumping out wizzies/science already. That's at least another 5-7 days more of pumping time on your explored faeries during awar itself. If I had seen your bpa earlier when I made the deal with flogger in April Yr 6, I would definitely have not done 6 days.
#3
Yes, cRAZiEs made mistakes of hitting into kingdoms involved in the awar. I have personally apologized to all the involved parties. Jerks have retalled the hit and we have CF it up. I have talked to Francis from FS and we have settled the issue. I have not personally talked to anyone from TBB, but we have communicated in-game and have a CF up.
Mistakes were done hitting into those kingdoms. And I'll be honest why I didnt have any blank CFs up with those kingdoms. This is because it's very hard to break a CF after it's up, and at that moment of time I felt having no CF but telling my guys not to hit kingdoms involved in the awar was a better choice.
My guys were basically being ranted by me every single day to whore and make sure we dont end up in an inferior spot vs Pandas at the end of the awar.. and cRAZiEs list of kingdoms CF-ed grew by the day.. we dont have awar targets to hit, but have to random across the server across many difference kingdoms
For the records, growth of both Pandas and Sillies during the period of the AWAR.
Pandas 61861 -> 107121, 45.3k acres gained
cRAZiEs 67504 -> 119525, 52.0k acres gained
This is inclusive of the fact that cRAZiEs had more initial pool during the timeframe.
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What Pandas has done during the awar, I do not disrespect any of their decisions. I also do not have any personal hate or bias towards any of Panda's leaders (cappo, taylor, AMP etc). They have tried to ask me for a longer preparation time, but cRAZiEs have not changed their stance that a 6 days notice from June 24th, Yr 6 is a fair deal.
I really hope we can stop the mud sliding between both parties and continue with our war preparations.
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Good luck and have fun.
