The bottom is hot

[beans]

dealbreakers dont get to run into fakewars to escape punishment for dealbreaking

nothing fake about it. Convenient yes, fake no.

Divinity got waved by us because they failed to properly close diplo after waving us. We gave them what they gave us. Emerati wants to jump in fine. They want to hit into our war, also fine. Thing is we always return favors. Don't cry when you see spartans in your news doing one of your wars next age emerati. You can justify this to yourself however you want but the bottom line is divinity did not seal an actual EOA CF with us and there is no excuse for hitting into our war. We would come after you some time any way, but now you are giving us a free pass to hit you during a hostile or war. So expect to get what you give.

[Binar]

1. The deal was already voided by dicks. If Emeriti wants free land, they should just call it by what it is.

2. Fake war? You kidding? Take a SN, see for yourself.

You can spin it anyway you want, and you probably have a No AW, no massacre and no hitting T/Ms deal with them which makes this a fakewar.

As for the dealbreaking, you clearly dealbroke x2.

I would not expect those hits to stop any time soon

[Binar]

Depends on what deal there is between Spartans and FakeSpartans.
If its a fake war with deals about not touching T/ms and a set WD date, then I personally think its fair game for you to do as you like Anri

[beans]

You can spin it anyway you want, and you probably have a No AW, no massacre and no hitting T/Ms deal with them which makes this a fakewar.

As for the dealbreaking, you clearly dealbroke x2.

I would not expect those hits to stop any time soon

I don't expect them to stop. just giving notice that we wont forget a kd hitting into our war.

no clear dealbreak, you can argue that we did but deal 1 was never a deal because a clearly stated requirement was not met and 2 was broken after we were given written notice that they were going to wave us in a few ticks. I'm not saying we are pillars of open honesty here, but who is in UTO, we are just answering the wrongs we have been given with out overstepping the conventions of the game. Breaking a CF with a kd that mistakingly did bad diplo is nothing new or unique to spartans, nor is breaking a CF when told by a kd they are coming after you.

No agreements have been made with enemy KD. claiming their are is just another BS justification for kds to do what they like and keep up the "us good spartans bad" pretense.

[jo.t.reid]

Depends on what deal there is between Spartans and FakeSpartans.
If its a fake war with deals about not touching T/ms and a set WD date, then I personally think its fair game for you to do as you like Anri

Show us the logs between Spartan and FakeSpartan leadership then. If you can't provide, I'd suggest you stop making bs accusations..?

[Binar]

Show us the logs between Spartan and FakeSpartan leadership then. If you can't provide, I'd suggest you stop making bs accusations..?

Words of dealbreakers mean nothing

[ape]

Spartans and fake Spartans, I think they could be saying: show us the logs between you two and how you arranged war. Yes logs can be edited but wtf, get a bit swedish and trust someone for a change if u dont.

[Chrystal Palace]

Both kingdoms should be razed to the ground. I am actually asking pandas to keep hitting fake Spartans now. Fakewars are disgusting.

[Fire]

Just gotta say this to deal break or being deal-breakers that usually happens during negotiations.
The woman was actually indeed a man, this was a deal-breaker for him.

The deal was broken...
Now I believe someone is saying the deal was broken by them(dicks) first becuase the cf was not accepted at the right moment?
If this was the case the cf should have been removed from play as soon as that "deal-breaker" came into play (the deal-breaker being that for you guys the settlement was at the wrong time) it should have been withdrawn and negotiations continued.(not started again, the deal in the first place was never settled) The fact you left it in place basically saying you are still happy with the deal to continue completely shuts your argument down sorry :(

Have to ask, what is the big deal? Is it considered unsporting?

[Kandy]

Fakewar has not been proven.

All this is bullying, which is against the spirit of the game. And this continuously happens age after age and then people wonder why the player base keeps dropping.

[jo.t.reid]

Words of dealbreakers mean nothing

Damn... burnnn!

The proof will be in the pudding. Take a glance at both our kds in 3-4 irl days time. See how fake you think it is then.

[Persain]

Damn... burnnn!

The proof will be in the pudding. Take a glance at both our kds in 3-4 irl days time. See how fake you think it is then.

im kinda doubting they'll be much left of them.

[Binar]

Fakewar has not been proven.

All this is bullying, which is against the spirit of the game. And this continuously happens age after age and then people wonder why the player base keeps dropping.

Its not bullying, its consequences.
Its nothing new, and its been like this since the early ages

[Korp]

Let's not forget some facts. Bart has previously been punished due to cheating. He's also one of the few people that manged to get permabanned from the forums. This is a player Spartans willingly takes back age after age. But I guess when someone provides free farm each time...

[Aces]

So people don't have a problem with Spartans they have a problem with their leadership? Yet they still want to raze kill them all to the ground, make some decent players (Spartans did win a crown last age) quit? Guess it was what I was saying the whole time. The top bans together if they feel a threat and they will break any deals or edicit they can to do it, who would stand up to them. Spartans tried look how thats going. Evident by bringing panda into this as well... Interesting. Well hope our player base doesnt get too small after the wipe out of not one but two kds. =)

Good show utopia!