It was at the point you could have been a real pile of bastards afaik. =]
You choose not to.
I'll be honest, it's pretty rough to see a double size kingdom hit, but I wasn't switched on or active enough. =[
I'd have given something up to allow us to drop down to 23-24 province kingdoms and given it a go. With our honor and size on only 22 provinces it was always untenable for us to maintain it =[