Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

[glubglub]

Agreed nice comment Pale. I don't think SS has done anything to make myself or the majority of utopia sympathetic to their situation. Certainly I, and the majority of honorable players, find kingdoms breaking clearly agreed upon eoa CFs to triple team a single kingdom far dirtier tactics than a kingdom competing for the honor crown using totally legitimate tactics to take the crown. Shame on SS you'll have done nothing here but damage your already poor reputation as whiners. I'd be afraid to tag up next age if I were you.

You guys act like ss cares. Fs didn't want to diplo so they're getting the fun war to see if they can crown. Ss isn't even whining, no idea where you seem to get that from. They are enjoying this exciting eoa. I mean their name is suicide squad...you gotta know they're gonna do something suicidal like this

If you know anything about the top kds, especially the ones who compete for land, you would know you can't make them do a damn thing. They weigh the evidence themselves and make a decision before moving.

Not always then case

Hes lying anyway. They offered after 2 or so waves. Just a stalling tactics while they were organizing gb.
They refused war on multiple occasions before that.

Oh refused war because ss already had war plans with other kds? Insee guess everyone has to drop everything if fs offers a war

im not gonna get into ppl that are only here for trolling.. a sincere advice for markers though - you have once tried to fake war to crown, and now trying to gb to crown, but its just not working as you see..

[11/23, 8:56 AM] Markers: If we get a min time ww maybe can end fight green or fs
[11/23, 8:56 AM] Markers: I'd enjoy that
[11/23, 8:56 AM] Markers: Not really care for crown but a great war
[11/23, 9:03 AM] Utopia - Mat: Yup
[11/23, 9:03 AM] Utopia - Mat: Im with you

Oh ss wants crown? Or need me post more logs proving otherwise

From what I've heard SS had some unreasonable demands.
Also, it's unfair to compare the situations Divinity is in and FS is in, essentially Divinity has nothing to lose and are more willing to land drop for an easy war without much risk involved, on the other hand FS have everything to lose sitting on #1 honor spot being presented with demands that could potentially jeopardize this position. I wouldn't necessarily call it bullying, more in the zone of protecting your own resources and interests from others.

Just wanted to add:
I don't feel like it's shameful to try and crown if you are open about it, it's shameful to try and hide it, although from what I've been told FS wasn't even trying to crown this age, just refresh the roster and such (actually I wasn't told what it was just that it wasn't crowning) and this will be a good lesson for all I imagine. I guess it became more of a thing when it became a real possibility after winning six wars in a row.

Ss cf demands was for fs to tell the truth behind his actions. Francis denied. However ss stated they would have accepted if they accepted that term or responded to ss diplo talks 10hr before fs waved.

ame DateMarch 15 of YR15Real DateSun, 20 Dec at 07:13 GMT+00:00SenderPrince Wormrot the Sorcerer of Meteor to the Face (x:x)RecipientPrince floyd lawton the Sorcerer of dead shot (8:3)Subjectcf deal

1- x:x are eoacf'd with x:x

2- x:x will stay below %85 kd honor of x:x

3- if x:x passes %85 honor in war, will intraraze it during eowcf - or make sure to intraraze during war if above %85 and in an ongoing war within 48h to eoa..

4- x:x wont war with kds eoacf'd with x:x - x:x wont interfere with x:x war arrangement efforts

5- while the deal is signed, x:x is above %85 honor range - it can be given to x:x before or after x:x's war, its up to x:x to decide

6- screenshot of the confirmed deal will be sent to zauper by both kds


confirmed,

Francis of FS

Btw...lol why would anyone agree to those terms?

Likewise had SS declined offers from FS to war prior (confirmed by one of your leaders).
And FS declined because they'd rather not war again over xmas/new year. Both cases are fine.

I get that hitting into hostile is lame but hitting someone who isn't hostile is fair game?
First people hide behind fake hostile tags and now a lot of people faketag war agreed to try and not get hit. (note: not saying SS did this, but it's a VERY common thing)

ss only declined previously because of war terms were already being processed with wsk/lost souls at their respective times. However during this shenanigans if fs didn't want a war with a war kd who even told Francis that we just want a war, they should have not full hit us or accepted ss cf term or offered a sensible cf

Honour crown was definitely not secured. 1 war by anyone else in the top 5 in honour could easily propel them above FS into the #1 spot. Claiming that they had it all wrapped up is foolishness. They're trying to get enough of an honour lead that even if a war win is secured by someone else in the top 5 right at eoa that they'd still keep their honour crown. If you were in their place and honour crown was your goal, you'd do the exact same thing. You can't control the other kds from warring each other but you can control your own actions. Concerning them offering to LD to SS for a fight, I don't have confirmation either way that it happened but I know they had offered some of the other top 5 kds that I know that kind of deal. I do assume at some that at some point SS were offered a fight this age by FS, at least once or twice. It's possible they didn't want to land drop to fight SS now because they could find themselves in the same position SS is in now with someone else in the top 5-10 in honour staring them down from a superior position afterwards and didn't want to take that risk? Which is certainly reasonable if that's the case.

You are correct fs had offered war to ss twice this age, both times ss already had war plans/terms moving forward with lost souls/wsk - fs also denied to ld for a more formal war this time around. But another thing people forget is fs waved ss mid age during a hostile with another kd, so this has been building for some time really.