Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

[Feint]

Anri , please tell me the guy who contact u is marker.... I switch side immediately

[DooWopJoel]

Anri , please tell me the guy who contact u is marker.... I switch side immediately

Feint double post to get top of page lol.

[13nesta13]

Btw how do top kds gather evidence claiming we initiated a gb? I have plenty logs/convos to show we actually told them not to. Oh well guess it's funner this way. And makes me laugh that at fs hypocracy

Us razing FS has NOTHING to do with SS asking it. We would have razed FS regardless of who they were warring. Yes, I would have dealbroken that deal regardless. If you want to make a deal with me, great, but then dont hold a gun to my head. Mind you that we've been a very honourable kingdom all age(s). We've never dealbroken in the past, and we've always been nice to whoever we warred/waved.

Also the fact that FS got gangbanged is not on SS. It's on Ruthless (and whatever other KD is doing the GB). Shouldnt BB be razing them? Instead of razing into a war, on a kingdom who did nothing wrong other than max out the meter against the bully?

Nothing new that pyro bb and fs are an alliance.

I wonder if you guys even look through your posts before actually submitting them. Whatever's been going on here has totally made my day just reading them for lols.

Can anyone seriously believe that this wasnt coordinated by someone from SS side (even if not started or led by someone from SS)? SS maxes meter, gets into a war, chains 2 dudes and within 1-2 hour, the 2 dudes got PKed by 3-4 KDs from the outside. And I am hearing claims that SS did nothing but simply fight a hostile and maxed meter and went to war?

Where were the bunch of you last age when I just pressed the button on Emeriti and coincidentally BB started hitting and razing in within the same hour? Nobody said Pyromaniacs didnt do anything, except just playing a hostile and pushing the button that was given to us? BB should be the ones razed and punished for interfering with my hostile/war, but apparently that wasnt the case. I took razes from 4 KDs after BB started razing Emeriti, and I lost 9 provinces.

Please, for god's sake, do not treat others like fools. Dont say something which you cant even convince yourself of.

Have there ever been any public declarations from myself, protector or flogger that Pyromaniacs and BB are allies? I'd like to see some of those quotes please, because I certainly cant recall any.

In fact, me, protector and flogger have always said the same thing, us and BB have fought each other in our quests for the crown almost every age until the last 2 ages, where us fighting brought neither of us closer to our goal of winning. Why is nobody buying our story that we aren't allies? Newsflash, people start associating you as allies when you seem to act like one, be it 2 KDs coming together and coordinating something that just isnt realistically possible without having talked it over beforehand or acting in favour of the other party when you feel that party has been unjustly dealt with.

Asking for explicit logs that SS explicitly was actively involved in coordinating this is ridiculous. You will never get those. None of the KDs on SS's side now would leak these logs, at least its not easy to obtain within 1 day of the incident happening. And what exactly were we supposed to do? Wait and investigate for 5 days before taking action, and FS already having 15 green provinces? Using common sense to assess that (1) we have a few in-game messages of KDs on SS's side reaching out to more KDs for help to join in on this GB and (2) the way the kills and engagement was planned and executed, it does not take a genius to arrive at the conclusion that this was planned.

Were there any logs that was between me and protector/flogger when BB hit into Emeriti last age when we pushed the button on Emeriti? My guess is no. And you wont get them, not until one day if Protector/flogger hates me, or vice versa, AND if we were as childish as CJ leaking past logs and pasting whatsapp screenshots after falling out with the other party.

Please, the least I ask of you is if you have the balls to do it, then admit it.

[Meep]

FS and me made a MAP this age.
It becomes active when one or the other kd needs help.
If a gb situation comes into play we will help them out.
I was contacted and asked to gb freekstyle. I made Francis aware of this and it was clear that IF they would receive a unjust gb we would be there for them. We are not allied to any kd involved. It be rather obvious if you watch this kd history vs the kds involved. Were just doing the right thing and help a kd out. MAP always been a part of utopia. Dont mistake it for a cf/nap/allied. These kind of deals can be made to the devil itself. I dont know why some beleive that FS would have no one to help them when they get gbed?

Just some food for thought.

If you and another kds playstyle is such that the odds of a gangbang happening is a real enough possibility that you have to make plans in advance for it, there might be something wrong with your playstyle.

Like I've never in uto history had to think "you know, I really need a contingency plan in case of random gangbang"

[Anri]

Just some food for thought.

If you and another kds playstyle is such that the odds of a gangbang happening is a real enough possibility that you have to make plans in advance for it, there might be something wrong with your playstyle.

Like I've never in uto history had to think "you know, I really need a contingency plan in case of random gangbang"

I was asked by SS to GB freekstyle. Did you even read my post.
There was no contingency plan in case of a random GB. SS asked Pandas to GB freekstyle and was gathering KDs to raze them into war. I have a whatsapp convo from SS that i sent to Freekstyle right after it happened. Upon this i told Freekstyle (Francis) that in case they get GBed we would help them out thus signing a simple MAP. What you are stating is wrong Meep. We had info of a few kds going to GB freekstyle and we took measures in preparing for it in case these kds would follow thru on it. If you call that a random GB then you are nuts. It was a planned GB.
This is why we help FS.

[copious]

I wonder if you guys even look through your posts before actually submitting them. Whatever's been going on here has totally made my day just reading them for lols.

Can anyone seriously believe that this wasnt coordinated by someone from SS side (even if not started or led by someone from SS)? SS maxes meter, gets into a war, chains 2 dudes and within 1-2 hour, the 2 dudes got PKed by 3-4 KDs from the outside. And I am hearing claims that SS did nothing but simply fight a hostile and maxed meter and went to war?

Where were the bunch of you last age when I just pressed the button on Emeriti and coincidentally BB started hitting and razing in within the same hour? Nobody said Pyromaniacs didnt do anything, except just playing a hostile and pushing the button that was given to us? BB should be the ones razed and punished for interfering with my hostile/war, but apparently that wasnt the case. I took razes from 4 KDs after BB started razing Emeriti, and I lost 9 provinces.

Please, for god's sake, do not treat others like fools. Dont say something which you cant even convince yourself of.

Have there ever been any public declarations from myself, protector or flogger that Pyromaniacs and BB are allies? I'd like to see some of those quotes please, because I certainly cant recall any.

In fact, me, protector and flogger have always said the same thing, us and BB have fought each other in our quests for the crown almost every age until the last 2 ages, where us fighting brought neither of us closer to our goal of winning. Why is nobody buying our story that we aren't allies? Newsflash, people start associating you as allies when you seem to act like one, be it 2 KDs coming together and coordinating something that just isnt realistically possible without having talked it over beforehand or acting in favour of the other party when you feel that party has been unjustly dealt with.

Asking for explicit logs that SS explicitly was actively involved in coordinating this is ridiculous. You will never get those. None of the KDs on SS's side now would leak these logs, at least its not easy to obtain within 1 day of the incident happening. And what exactly were we supposed to do? Wait and investigate for 5 days before taking action, and FS already having 15 green provinces? Using common sense to assess that (1) we have a few in-game messages of KDs on SS's side reaching out to more KDs for help to join in on this GB and (2) the way the kills and engagement was planned and executed, it does not take a genius to arrive at the conclusion that this was planned.

Were there any logs that was between me and protector/flogger when BB hit into Emeriti last age when we pushed the button on Emeriti? My guess is no. And you wont get them, not until one day if Protector/flogger hates me, or vice versa, AND if we were as childish as CJ leaking past logs and pasting whatsapp screenshots after falling out with the other party.

Please, the least I ask of you is if you have the balls to do it, then admit it.

Herein lies the crux of this altercation: Reasonable Doubt

What you are saying is that these guys definitely have had to collude in order to razekill.
They MUST have been in cahoots because that is what I myself would have done because I play in an SKD and that's what i would have needed to do to produce such a result.

There is just simply no way that other aggrieved kingdoms can plan their own revenge and take snatch news on their own accord and razekill those provinces, beyond reasonable doubt.

And that's just it.

Your rhetoric is this:

KDs who war and go up the chart should be farmed for honor should they scale the honor/warring chart.
They should suck it up and eat cake when bullies come knocking, just because.
Should any possible retaliation/revenge occur, it must be organised.

Ours is more like this:

KDs who war and go up the chart should have the right to decide which wars they partake in and not coerced into.
Warring KDs should NOT suck it up and eat cake just because bullies come knocking, just because.
Any possible retaliation/revenge occuring from other KDs razing FS will depend on how badly FS rubbed them, would it not?

You, Sir, have joined in to crucify SS based on reasonable doubt.

Thinking about the embarasment of Pyro/BB/WSK/Pandas when they really discover they were on the wrong side all along.

[Meep]

I was asked by SS to GB freekstyle. Did you even read my post.
There was no contingency plan in case of a random GB. SS asked Pandas to GB freekstyle and was gathering KDs to raze them into war. I have a whatsapp convo from SS that i sent to Freekstyle right after it happened. Upon this i told Freekstyle (Francis) that in case they get GBed we would help them out thus signing a simple MAP. What you are stating is wrong Meep. We had info of a few kds going to GB freekstyle and we took measures in preparing for it in case these kds would follow thru on it. If you call that a random GB then you are nuts. It was a planned GB.
This is why we help FS.

I didn't say it was a random GB? There are no random GBs, that was the point of my post...nobody makes MAPs in advance because they might get randomly gangbanged, they do it because they know there is a real possibility they might get gangbanged.

If there is a real possibility your KD might get GB'd, then you're probably doing something wrong.

[MyNameIsMatija]

I didn't say it was a random GB? There are no random GBs, that was the point of my post...nobody makes MAPs in advance because they might get randomly gangbanged, they do it because they know there is a real possibility they might get gangbanged.

If there is a real possibility your KD might get GB'd, then you're probably doing something wrong.

Maybe we wanted to get GBed all along, I can already see the theory, it was all our plan again.

[Meep]

Maybe we wanted to get GBed all along, I can already see the theory, it was all our plan again.

We have to go deeper.

You've been working with WSK to get them an honor crown all along, by doing all the dirty work and pissing people off.

Get yourself razekilled, get the #2 kd razekilled, and BOOM honor crown for WSK.

My hat is off to your tactical superiority

[MyNameIsMatija]

We have to go deeper.

You've been working with WSK to get them an honor crown all along, by doing all the dirty work and pissing people off.

Get yourself razekilled, get the #2 kd razekilled, and BOOM honor crown for WSK.

My hat is off to your tactical superiority

My God, we are brilliant I must say.

[Goodwitch]

I (Lost Souls) was accused by Francis of organizing a gb. I did send messages to some kingdoms. I asked them to go to the forum and vote and voice their opinions.
I also mentioned we could start a taskforce to represent the smaller kingdoms interests for NEXT age.
Then I was accused of hitting into an active hostile. When the hostile was clearly not going to war and as far as I know FS wasn't even tagged.
Then I was accused of interfering in a war because I took intel, cause obviously no one else ever takes the news of a war they aren't in.
(If we'll be accused of everything anyway may as well do it)
You can find all those spewed all over this forum except the last one for which he sent Protector to pm me on irc.

Combined with the fact that our conflict with FS started well before this war was even started kind of proves we did none of those things.

The orders to my kingdom: raze whoever looks closest to dying(it's really not that tough to figure out)

I do talk to markers. They warred us and we stayed on friendly terms. I have also talked to ss monarch about the "deals" each of us were offered.

strangely enough the minute I started asking about a deal break possibly commited by fs as well as hitting into an active hostile I was first ignored(FS including Francis were posting all the while but the repeated questions were ignored). Then lol was booted from BB irc after asking about the db...and then told here in forum that I wouldn't get an answer because it's irrelevant. Seems to me someone could have asked FS what that was all about before deeming razes inappropriate measure.

Ascension and wsk had a war agreed but they were needed so badly that they had to cancel it? really? just another time FS(with help because I honestly don't think they came up with this by themselves)controls the crown fight.The only question is who will be heartbroken in the end. Who will be the ones next age complaining about what they did this age.

so if all this wasn't compelling enough then consider if FS has ever warred truly 1 on 1. I know y'all think everyone else is blind, but not all are. Getting 20 mill gold from outside sources for example is just as much interference as a hit, or other resources. And yea there is no proof, because it doesn't show up in kingdom news. But believe it or not there are some people that can actually calculate how much you could realistically obtain by togging or stealing from an unwilling target.

If you still think our razes are out of line I can't help you.

(of course you also didn't quote me nesta, instead you quoted arafein, who as far as I know has not razed, he may have even mentioned he isn't even playing)

[nipster]

FS is just getting what's coming to them

[Bestest Ever]

I think you aren't getting an answer because nobody cares and is irrelevant to the situation playing out here.

Not at all irrelevant. If FS are deal breakers which we know they are then this is an exercise in hypocrisy.

People who are helping FS should not be hitting SS but those who are hitting FS, SS is innocent and had no part in this very righteous beat down of FS.

FS is the scum of Utopia
I'm in Ascension BTW

[MyNameIsMatija]

Not at all irrelevant. If FS are deal breakers which we know they are then this is an exercise in hypocrisy.

People who are helping FS should not be hitting SS but those who are hitting FS, SS is innocent and had no part in this very righteous beat down of FS.

FS is the scum of Utopia
I'm in Ascension BTW

You seem to have two forum accounts BTW.

[Paymon]

You seem to have two forum accounts BTW.

Multi's?