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    Btw who are these FReakstyle? I only know about the divine kd Freeakstyle. Confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_ View Post
    The actions of one player in the KD (whose actions have been sanctioned by SS leaders) does not equal the actions of KD-wide actions backed by the leaders.
    Your own KD member in this very thread admitted you knew of incoming GB and have coordinated with outside hits.
    Apart from that KD's who dont even like us and wouldnt mind screwing us over given chance are helping us.

    If you choose to continue playing victim and assume everyone else is an idiot we cant help that, but it will not change facts about your role in all this.
    You have been caught with hand in a cookie jar and now you are being punished by community, not by FS allies.

    Just like 2 ages ago you were caught by Bishop and had your entire KD deleted for fw'ing stoners.

    Playing dumb didnt help you than, and it wont help you now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citadela01 View Post
    Your own KD member in this very thread admitted you knew of incoming GB and have coordinated with outside hits.
    Apart from that KD's who dont even like us and wouldnt mind screwing us over given chance are helping us.

    If you choose to continue playing victim and assume everyone else is an idiot we cant help that, but it will not change facts about your role in all this.
    You have been caught with hand in a cookie jar and now you are being punished by community, not by FS allies.

    Just like 2 ages ago you were caught by Bishop and had your entire KD deleted for fw'ing stoners.

    Playing dumb didnt help you than, and it wont help you now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citadela01 View Post
    Your own KD member in this very thread admitted you knew of incoming GB and have coordinated with outside hits.
    Apart from that KD's who dont even like us and wouldnt mind screwing us over given chance are helping us.

    If you choose to continue playing victim and assume everyone else is an idiot we cant help that, but it will not change facts about your role in all this.
    You have been caught with hand in a cookie jar and now you are being punished by community, not by FS allies.

    Just like 2 ages ago you were caught by Bishop and had your entire KD deleted for fw'ing stoners.

    Playing dumb didnt help you than, and it wont help you now.
    No one has admitted anything because there is nothing to admit.

    We are not playing victim we are playing wtf are we being hit without properly reviewing evidence. The razes should have been on those razing you. Its common sense and law 101

    Btw you keep bringing up feints fw, are you really that butt hurt? He has publicly admitting before, during and after it was his plan to get us all deleted because he hates us and you. Lol but i guess you ignore what you want to spin things how you need it to look :) classic fs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke_ View Post
    You just contradicted yourself palem, in the scenario you listed: IF CR wants to get the honor crown also by bottomfeeding everyone, it would be very successful because any Quote "unwanted attention (the kind that would result in kingdoms banding together to work against them)" would just result in all the whorers at the top raze killing those said kingdoms that try to stand up to CR; exactly how this played out with the majority of the whorers raze killing those trying to stand up to FS ****play. But CR is not FS and won't drop so low just for the triple crown they can easily get.
    No. Top kingdoms help out whoever it benefits them most to help out. Helping knock CR out of the #1 spot while gaining the trust of a whole slew of decent honor kingdoms would benefit them much more than helping CR get the triple crown because they're being greedy (assuming the honor kingdoms didn't do anything particularly dirty). Assuming that all top kingdoms ban together to help each other out whenever any "non-top" kingdom tries to challenge them is incorrect.

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    No one has admitted anything because there is nothing to admit.
    erm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwitch View Post
    I am not. I did say I PMed kingdoms and I did. To organize a taskforce/alliance or whatever it might be called for NEXT age, and to encourage them to come to the forums and have a voice. Last I checked there was no rule against encouraging players to get involved in the forums.

    However AFTER I was accused, tried(this is a very exaggerated term in this case as one party decided regardless of proof or reason) and convicted for calling for a gb and sentence had started to be carried out I did send mails calling for a gb. I did so to prove a point, and the recipients included kingdoms like CR for example and mainly kingdoms involved in active wars. I worded it to where the chances of someone actually following through with it were minimal at best. I also announced in forum that I would do it.
    Depending on how you want to define "organize", it's at least pretty clear that kingdoms were contacted about razing FS. Claiming innocence because you weren't expected to be taken seriously is a really lame cop out. If you didn't want CR's help, the best way of achieving that is not contacting CR for help.


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    dingy admitted earlier they were contacted offered help and accepted it. Post is edited now but if I remember correctly he originally explicitly stated they let others know when will war start.
    Those are things known to him personally, grunt in SS.

    Theres plenty other evidence, including msgs beeing sent out and more.

    But in the end I'd say sheer amount of help FS received is a clear proof of situation. Even CR is razing SS, anyone who thinks CR/Zauper would raze into other ppl's war and help FS w/o 100% proof is silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citadela01 View Post
    dingy admitted earlier they were contacted offered help and accepted it. Post is edited now but if I remember correctly he originally explicitly stated they let others know when will war start.
    Those are things known to him personally, grunt in SS.

    Theres plenty other evidence, including msgs beeing sent out and more.

    But in the end I'd say sheer amount of help FS received is a clear proof of situation. Even CR is razing SS, anyone who thinks CR/Zauper would raze into other ppl's war and help FS w/o 100% proof is silly.
    So why not show these messages and plenty of other evidence that supports your side of the story? I mean, it doesnt work like this that you claim there is evidence while not providing any evidence.

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    So situation is basically:

    - Top KDs have had nothing to do for +1 month as CR have crown.
    - People are bored, so decide to "teach people a lesson" for stealing from them.
    - People go back to being bored.
    - FS wants to secure crown so hits SS.
    - SS decide to fight back.
    - Some vague mention of messages sent asking for GB on FS, but no-one can actually prove any of this and all KDs involved have said they're hitting FS and given a legitimate reason for wanting to do so rather than being some KD who've never dealt with FS but happen to be SS friends, etc.
    - FS again runs off to friends and asks them to GB KD in question, rather than take action against any offending KDs.

    Long story short, FS is a scummy ghetto, top KDs only help them to keep them onside (think they'd be OOW razing & throw away their age for FS if CR didn't already have crown and they were still in the race?) and ages should be about 8 weeks long to stop all this EoA CF bollocks allowing war win bonuses to mean more & utopia to stop being so boring for the players who keep it alive (yes I consider top KDs more lifeblood of the game than random midsized KDs who have people drift in and out constantly).

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    imagine that the corrupt police chose who gets the fake crown. the result will be probably about a 10% dip in players next age. don't you cops see your killing your own food source.

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    Goodwitch isn't in SS.

    My intuition tells me the source of the problem is diplo concerning farm wars in the top tier. Cause and effect by virtue of a false ceiling on kingdoms that are readily vulnerable. This creates a barrier that was more malleable in ages past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfox View Post
    So situation is basically:

    - Top KDs have had nothing to do for +1 month as CR have crown.
    - People are bored, so decide to "teach people a lesson" for stealing from them.
    - People go back to being bored.
    - FS wants to secure crown so hits SS.
    - SS decide to fight back.
    - Some vague mention of messages sent asking for GB on FS, but no-one can actually prove any of this and all KDs involved have said they're hitting FS and given a legitimate reason for wanting to do so rather than being some KD who've never dealt with FS but happen to be SS friends, etc.
    - FS again runs off to friends and asks them to GB KD in question, rather than take action against any offending KDs.

    Long story short, FS is a scummy ghetto, top KDs only help them to keep them onside (think they'd be OOW razing & throw away their age for FS if CR didn't already have crown and they were still in the race?) and ages should be about 8 weeks long to stop all this EoA CF bollocks allowing war win bonuses to mean more & utopia to stop being so boring for the players who keep it alive (yes I consider top KDs more lifeblood of the game than random midsized KDs who have people drift in and out constantly).
    Well if we're going to give completely ridiculous summaries...

    -Ghettos acted stupid
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.
    -#1 honor kingdom waves #2 honor kingdom
    -Ghetto got outplayed and cried about it all over the forums
    -Other ghettos got sympathetic and tried to cheat FS out of a crown and give it to their friends
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.


    I think that about sums it up better than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    Well if we're going to give completely ridiculous summaries...

    -Ghettos acted stupid
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.
    -#1 honor kingdom waves #2 honor kingdom
    -Ghetto got outplayed and cried about it all over the forums
    -Other ghettos got sympathetic and tried to cheat FS out of a crown and give it to their friends
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.


    I think that about sums it up better than yours.
    Palem your kd isn't being talked about why bring up ghettos?

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    All kingdoms involved consider themselves defenseless ghettos getting picked on by the big kids. Their words, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    No. Top kingdoms help out whoever it benefits them most to help out. Helping knock CR out of the #1 spot while gaining the trust of a whole slew of decent honor kingdoms would benefit them much more than helping CR get the triple crown because they're being greedy (assuming the honor kingdoms didn't do anything particularly dirty). Assuming that all top kingdoms ban together to help each other out whenever any "non-top" kingdom tries to challenge them is incorrect.



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    Depending on how you want to define "organize", it's at least pretty clear that kingdoms were contacted about razing FS. Claiming innocence because you weren't expected to be taken seriously is a really lame cop out. If you didn't want CR's help, the best way of achieving that is not contacting CR for help.


    If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck.
    Palem, the taskforce, alliance for next year had nothing to do with FS. There are plenty people thar will vouch for that. Including Nobles, Dungeondwellers, History Makers, also some players from bigger kingdoms that I invited so they know we aren't planning a war small vs big. Had I wanted to GB FS all those kingdoms would have joined in.

    Those mails sent was after I had been accused of gb(by FS), convicted(by FS), sentenced (by FS), and punishment had been carried out in form of Ascension waving us(They CFed us though). The very first mail went to leadership of CR. None of the kingdoms the mail was sent to actually hit FS, that was by design. And the mail was sent well after all this started. I even announced in this thread I was going to do it. I also told every kingdom that even replied that it was not necessary for them to actually make hits and explained what happened.

    From the start I never held actioning against us by ascension against ascension. I actually said in this forum that if you were to punish someone it should always be kingdoms hitting into war, not the people in war. Our differences with FS have nothing in the slightest to do with SS and started well before this war.

    Razing into war is wrong. And yes , I was wrong to order it. But I ordered it to my own kingom not anyone elses. And I did so AFTER Francis already accused me of it.
    We hit into what he called a hostile. At that time it was not a hostile by the standards given by FS and pale in former threads. Francis accused us and threatened action. All this happened here in the forums.

    Meanwhile 7(if I counted right) Kingdoms have stepped up with charges ranging from Deal breaks, hitting into hostiles, blocking wars to extreme bottomfeeding. And every single one was called a liar by FS. The Alliance didn't even bat an eyelash.

    Fact of the matter is this whole thing is very convenient for FS and the Alliance. Ascension had a war set up with WSK for example. Had Ascension won that war they would have most likely taken the honor crown. Unfortunately WSK's services were needed in the action(really? they couldn't have done without them?) so the war was canceled.
    FS were demanding for Divinity and SS to withdraw from honor race before(also discussed in this forum).

    I offered FS a more than fair deal. The offer was for Francis and Protector to make a statement that Lost Souls was not part of any GB , that our differences are a seperate issue that we will try to solve amongst us. And that FS will in the future give smaller kingdoms the same courtesy in diplomacy as they give to experienced bigger kingdoms.

    The offer was denied and followed by more threats.

    This is one kingdom that continually every age has allegations of unfair play brought up against them. And it's the same people that always defend them. And all allegations are simply dismissed, every age by those same people. Is anyone really surprised that the kettle boiled over?

    and again they will call me a liar. And that's okay. I don't care. Defamation is always easier than proving a point just like farming honor is always easier than actually earning it. If a handful of players can dictate who gets to win and who doesn't, gets to decide who is right and who is wrong, gets to decide who gets to war who and when, then there is something wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palem View Post
    Well if we're going to give completely ridiculous summaries...

    -Ghettos acted stupid
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.
    -#1 honor kingdom waves #2 honor kingdom
    -Ghetto got outplayed and cried about it all over the forums
    -Other ghettos got sympathetic and tried to cheat FS out of a crown and give it to their friends
    -Ghettos got stomped because they were stupid.


    I think that about sums it up better than yours.
    It was far from stomping. I loved our time with Pyro. It only cost them about 1billion gold coins to pk a province. Not to mention we also did get some land out of it.

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