Not allowed to fsu anymore?

[Pale]

Those who don't respect kds already being waved and/or in a hostile, should not complain if theirs are violated. That is all.

[KuhaN]

So fsu got countered by fsu and you cry?

Does not make sense.

[FATstrat]

I'll just assume you're a troll and not actually that much of a moron.

Metallic Symphony are another KD that think they can tag hostile before they wave someone who has already told them they don't wanna war. It is common practice among low quality warring KD's that enjoy bottomfeeding ghettos.

[Pale]

Silly Kuhan. FSU doesn't mean you go against 1 v 1 principles or just play with no rules. Kingdoms don't deserve triple hostiles or gb towards them unless they've done something to deserve it. That's obviously not the case in this situation so the "whining" is warranted. FSU age can mean you fight anyone at any time, including standing up to bigger kds. It can be based on 1 v 1 though. It doesn't have to mean you're a complete hooligan who doesn't care about normal ethics of the game.

[Tadpole]

Silly Kuhan. FSU doesn't mean you go against 1 v 1 principles or just play with no rules. Kingdoms don't deserve triple hostiles or gb towards them unless they've done something to deserve it. That's obviously not the case in this situation so the "whining" is warranted. FSU age can mean you fight anyone at any time, including standing up to bigger kds. It can be based on 1 v 1 though. It doesn't have to mean you're a complete hooligan who doesn't care about normal ethics of the game.

How is that "f*ucking things up"? Must be a very light version of fsu. A version that practically means nothing but a kd growing a pair? ;)

[KuhaN]

Silly Kuhan. FSU doesn't mean you go against 1 v 1 principles or just play with no rules. Kingdoms don't deserve triple hostiles or gb towards them unless they've done something to deserve it. That's obviously not the case in this situation so the "whining" is warranted. FSU age can mean you fight anyone at any time, including standing up to bigger kds. It can be based on 1 v 1 though. It doesn't have to mean you're a complete hooligan who doesn't care about normal ethics of the game.

i think fsu means "you're a complete hooligan who doesn't care about normal ethics of the game."

[sktoh]

Nah...fsu != dirt play

[ThRaZe]

FSU is just that. IDGAF attitude.

U shouldnt even care about being GB if you have a real FSU attitude. Poser?

[umajon911]

FSU is just that. IDGAF attitude.

U shouldnt even care about being GB if you have a real FSU attitude. Poser?

Yup yup!!! High off low def break anyone in range :-p

[Rizen]

Thx beastblood for landrop before we war x:x <3 i love you cuties.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Thx beastblood for landrop before we war x:x <3 i love you cuties.

Which ones were you? You see there's always someone in KD chat saying: "These guys FSU, these bastards won't stop hitting this and that, these other guys we just don't like etc." and I'm like: "Sure, if you say so." thinking to myself: "Whatever, I need some land targets anyway, I've been running out". Hitting the same KD if they don't retal us or FSU more than once just doesn't sit well with me personally and the KD gives out free CF deals like candies so you can see how I can run short on things to hit and I'm trying to learn how to whore here. Excuse me if I have no idea who you are, these FSU KDs just keep piling up, you reach a CF with one, there's two new ones waiting in line already, you are not special apparently.

[Azureflames]

Which ones were you? You see there's always someone in KD chat saying: "These guys FSU, these bastards won't stop hitting this and that, these other guys we just don't like etc." and I'm like: "Sure, if you say so." thinking to myself: "Whatever, I need some land targets anyway, I've been running out". Hitting the same KD if they don't retal us or FSU more than once just doesn't sit well with me personally and the KD gives out free CF deals like candies so you can see how I can run short on things to hit and I'm trying to learn how to whore here. Excuse me if I have no idea who you are, these FSU KDs just keep piling up, you reach a CF with one, there's two new ones waiting in line already, you are not special apparently.

Jan-FebYR7

[MyNameIsMatija]

OneUNIT?
Yeah there was something about you being prickly all age (something about not wanting to CF - not sure) and refusing to stop hitting someone else, I don't know what's going on most of the time tbh, pretty much the KD is in slack-mode and I'm just trying to whore some acres.

This is my February:
February 7 of YR7 Our people decided to explore new territories and have settled 5 acres of new land.
February 11 of YR7 Enemies have convinced our soldiers to demand more money for upkeep for 2 days.
February 11 of YR7 A massive fireball crashed into our lands and killed 426 peasants!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 A massive fireball crashed into our lands and killed 449 peasants!
February 11 of YR7 2,999 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
February 14 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 14 of YR7 We have received a shipment of 50,000 bushels from Grand Theft Auto V ().

January is you ambushing my hit and such (I believe I only hit you once, not that it matters, just saying).

You see this is how Utopia works: we willingly paid 5kish acres to each of the bigger KDs for CF deals, we can now wave you for acres as well, even more so when you retal or op us, all the FSU and whatnot aside. It's my personal preference not to ruin other people's age by hitting the same KD twice because I've been in the warring tier as well but I also understood that sometimes you just lose a bit of land and deal with it, it's a part of the game.

[Azureflames]

OneUNIT?
Yeah there was something about you being prickly all age (something about not wanting to CF - not sure) and refusing to stop hitting someone else, I don't know what's going on most of the time tbh, pretty much the KD is in slack-mode and I'm just trying to whore some acres.

This is my February:
February 7 of YR7 Our people decided to explore new territories and have settled 5 acres of new land.
February 11 of YR7 Enemies have convinced our soldiers to demand more money for upkeep for 2 days.
February 11 of YR7 A massive fireball crashed into our lands and killed 426 peasants!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 11 of YR7 A massive fireball crashed into our lands and killed 449 peasants!
February 11 of YR7 2,999 gold coins were stolen from our coffers!
February 14 of YR7 Our mages noticed a possible spell attempt by Westminster () causing trouble on our lands!
February 14 of YR7 We have received a shipment of 50,000 bushels from Grand Theft Auto V ().

January is you ambushing my hit and such (I believe I only hit you once, not that it matters, just saying).

You see this is how Utopia works: we willingly paid 5kish acres to each of the bigger KDs for CF deals, we can now wave you for acres as well, even more so when you retal or op us, all the FSU and whatnot aside. It's my personal preference not to ruin other people's age by hitting the same KD twice because I've been in the warring tier as well but I also understood that sometimes you just lose a bit of land and deal with it, it's a part of the game.

If we are waving we tend to wave a kd for 2 waves(12-16h) in total if they throw up a cf after our first wave. If they are retal'ing then it depends how and how much, but most kds just want a cf and don't retal enough for UF, or op us. We've never been stuck in a prolonged retal war with another kingdom that involved more than one or two provs. IIRC only a few kd have had 3 waves or more and it is because they withdrew cf/retalled several hits. The only kd I remember waving more than once I think is the one that started this thread.

Jan-Feb was busy for us. You weren't the only ones waving us. I ended up down 700a.

Jul22-Feb15
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 25 (1,271 acres)
-- Traditional march: 9 (1,115 acres)
-- Ambush: 2 (156 acres)
-- Plunder: 6
-- Learn: 7
-- Failed: 1 (4% failure)
-- Uniques: 11
Total attacks suffered: 56 (4,375 acres)
-- Traditional march: 37 (4,375 acres)
-- Massacre: 5 (8,510 population)
-- Plunder: 5
-- Learn: 9
-- Uniques: 39

This should be your kd Total land exchanged: +2,758 (27/1). Another kd waved us after we cf'd you guys and we were in a 50% fort. Not ready for a war but declaring was still our best option. Nothing beats an eowcf for getting provinces properly trained.

Can't really complain much. Sometimes you get fed on or waved by multiple kingdoms. It feels ****ty at the time, but other times you are doing the ones growing. In my mind if a kd keeps losing acres they probably didn't deserve to be as big as they were anyway. Either due to poor play or poor diplomacy, the result is the same.