Jesters

[Korp]

Something? What something cause I don't see the game rules explaining anything. They fulffil every requirement to play togheter in the same KD. What is the problem then?

Xlogging it's been stated already. But it's was for them to sort.it out not a public spectacle.

[pierniczek]

Xlogging it's been stated already. But it's was for them to sort.it out not a public spectacle.

It was not started by Jesters but this whole thread sure turned out to be a public spectacle.
Everyone has the right to defend their good name...

[Korp]

It was not started by Jesters but this whole thread sure turned out to be a public spectacle.
Everyone has the right to defend their good name...

Have you read the thread? What people from Jesters did mostly just insult and rant. There was what 3 people banned cause they couldnt behave.

[Palem]

Ironically the 2 people deleted were the most chill

[MyNameIsMatija]

This is why I said smack talk only hurt them. It played right into the hands of anyone who disagrees with them. Now, even if they had a valid point somewhere, there's a candy shop of excuses people can revert to.

[Bishop]

If you cheat, then probably(I personally dunno) yes you should ask yourselves those questions.
No cheating is going on here since they were whitelisted before they started to play in Jesters. For 2 years everything was fine and I am sure the KD(like others) got checked out on more then 1 occasion. They need to use the same browsers so their Stinger extensions work on the hardware. They play in a some what organised KD, so on a general rule, they will do similar things.

Why did they get deleted now?

This also makes me want to repeat a question that got ignored,
Are couples that live togheter that can prove they are actually 2 diffrent people allowed to play togheter?
This case shows otherwise and the forumpost made by Bishop that supposably answers that question is very unclear and very inprecise, it leaves a lot of room for a free interpretation, the rule can be bent towards the given situation and not the way around. (IMHO ofc)

Your question was ignored because its already answered in the rules.

[zsivhawk]

im quite sure it was implied a few times from jesters that theyve used same device, then the story turned into devices of the same model..

A couple people have speculated that they could have logged in from the same device, the two people who were deleted say they logged in with separate devices of the same model. The story has not changed. People have speculated, Krissy and Stever have a picture of themselves with their separate phones of the same model.

[Frugal Baggins]

Just be more careful in the future, try to figure out what set of the flag and don't repeat said action

I think we figured out the issue. Its just that we have the same kind of devices on the same ip and the logs dont show mac id. So there's no way to prove anything. I am not sure how we are going to fix this issue so that multiple people in one household can play.

[zsivhawk]

I really love the Bishop I am right you are wrong attitude, NOT.

That said you people got angry with him for all the wrong reasons and started trying to bash him in all the wrong ways, I'd ban you all myself as well. I can understand though, visibly you feel attacked and you responded with aggression. Normal response when one feels a member of their group (or a friend if you will) is being wronged.

Just be more careful in the future, try to figure out what set of the flag and don't repeat said action (I hope you don't leave the game because you seem like rational people). I say this because the age is almost over, you didn't really lose much from your experience in Utopia, if anything this made it more interesting.

Best of luck to all, hope this gets resolved soon <3

We lost 9k honor and they lost their place in the halls of honor (Rankings page) which is something that people can still look at for ages to come.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Rankings for what? Were they top honor provs?

[Bishop]

A couple people have speculated that they could have logged in from the same device, the two people who were deleted say they logged in with separate devices of the same model. The story has not changed. People have speculated, Krissy and Stever have a picture of themselves with their separate phones of the same model.

Allow me to put this to bed now that i am back in front of the logs. In the last 60 hours there are 5 devices used. One device is used by one person only, the other 4 are used by each account. This is a rule violation which results in deletion.

below are the usage hits of each device over the last 5 days.
deviceid acc1 acc2
1 ---- 19 ----9
2 ---- 98 ---- 83
3 ---- 14 ----179
4 ---- 11 ---- 14
5 ---- 1 ---- 0

[Bishop]

I think we figured out the issue. Its just that we have the same kind of devices on the same ip and the logs dont show mac id. So there's no way to prove anything. I am not sure how we are going to fix this issue so that multiple people in one household can play.

No, thats not the issue. Same model devices do not show the same identifiers on the system. One or both of you is logging in together. As per the rules you are entirely responsible for account security on your end.

[MyNameIsMatija]

Well this is embarrassing lol

[Patrick88]

hahah so busted... and you could see the stories cooked up when desperate lol

[wingding]

Allow me to put this to bed now that i am back in front of the logs. In the last 60 hours there are 5 devices used. One device is used by one person only, the other 4 are used by each account. This is a rule violation which results in deletion.

below are the usage hits of each device over the last 5 days.
deviceid acc1 acc2
1 ---- 19 ----9
2 ---- 98 ---- 83
3 ---- 14 ----179
4 ---- 11 ---- 14
5 ---- 1 ---- 0

And that's with barely 1 day in war...cersei walk of shame time