Game Mechanics and Strategies

[2Utopian]

Bishop has confirmed before that pat affects prop gains. I think Persain may have collected data before supporting it as well.

Edit:
Bishops confirmation
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...435-Patriotism

[7thghost]

The pat/prop thingy is also mentioned in the guide iirc

[dieaready]

So if you have 1000 acres and 30% homes, your population is:

1000*25*1.1 + 3000 = 30.5000

I'm assuming that 1.1 is 10% pop sci?

Home/race pop is added to your total pop before it is multiplied by science and honour, in which case:
[(1000 x 25) + 3000] x 1.1 = 30800

I usually calculate homes as a % and add on the pop/a to the total, eg: 10% homes = +1 pop/a, 25 pop/a + 1 pop/a (from homes) = 26 pop/a

My stats:

Halfling/sage
Acres: 880
Homes: 19.9%
Sci: +10.5% Population Limits
Honour: Lord (+1% pop)
Max Population: 29447
Pop/a: 33.46

880 x (25 [base] + 3 [race, +12% pop] + 1.99 [homes]) x 1.105 [sci] x 1.01 [honour] = 29453.89876
Actual: 29447
Calculated: 29454
Difference: +7 (0.024% margin, rounding errors)

[Bart of Sparta]

I'm assuming that 1.1 is 10% pop sci?

It is the racial bonus. I assumed no sci there :)

[Tadpole]

Total pop = (((built acres * 25) + (barren acres * 15) * Racial bonus) + homes acres * 10) * Sci bonus * honor bonus

Another way of typing it :)

[dieaready]

It is the racial bonus. I assumed no sci there :)

Oh, it is 12% actually, 1.12, not 10%. Simple +3 pop/a.

[Bart of Sparta]

Thanks tadpole/diealready! Will edit.

[jmiedema]

Ambush Calculation, May want to include how aggression is a modifier that is not affected in ambush calc.

Nightstrike Calculation. I think Thieves to send is based on "stacks" of troops. and soldiers home would be 1 stack, soldiers away a seperate stack, but if all are home they combine to be 1 stack.. Same with Elites. If soldiers are the largest overall stack you send # of soldiers/6. If ospecs or dspecs or elites are the largest stack it is the stack # divided by 5.

Example:So if they are fully home and they have 6000 soldiers, 8000 dspecs and 10000 elites, elites is the largest stack so you divide by 5 and send 2000 thieves. However if they have 6000 soldiers home, 8000 dspecs home, 5000 elites home, and 5000 elites away, elites are no longer the biggest stack, dspecs are, so you divide the dspec stack by 5 and send 1600 thieves.

I believe that the stack method is the most accurate?

[jmiedema]

May also want to include something about Elite Conversion stats and optimization

[Bart of Sparta]

If people have the exact mechanics for elite conversion I will put them in. Thanks for the comment on the stacks. I understand it better now will include it.

[jmiedema]

If people have the exact mechanics for elite conversion I will put them in. Thanks for the comment on the stacks. I understand it better now will include it.

Yea I'm sure it is somewhere. I know it is based off the gains formula, but also has a sliding conversion scale between 10-20% conversion based on the % of your (attacking) army that is ospecs (Pretty sure horses don't matter for this just leets/ospecs/soldiers).

Example if you send a 100% ospec army against a province that is exactly your size, in a kingdom exactly your size, and not in fort and no GBP, then you will convert 20% of your ospecs to leets.

I am not sure though which gains formula is used, whether it is the land gains formula or the honour gains formula, because obviously there are many situations where fort/gbp etc affect land gains moreso than honour gains.

I havent played war hero, so havent used this since it was an undead thing, but I believe oversending also affects the # of conversions (meaning it is not beneficial to massively oversend in your attacks to get more conversions)

[beans]

How about some guidelines for MWPA and MTPA advantage needed for combat spell success? If formulas are known thatd be great, but general guidelines would be great too. something like droughts needs 2x the wpa for roughly 3/4 success, MS needs 3x for 3/4 success, etc (just throwing some numbers, their not accurate).

[Bart of Sparta]

Added bouncing hits. If people know more ways or got tips, lemme know!

[Skank]

jmiedema
Example if you send a 100% ospec army against a province that is exactly your size, in a kingdom exactly your size, and not in fort then you will convert 20% of your ospecs to leets.

If they are in fort you get no conversion or just less?

[joeblogs]

jmiedema
Example if you send a 100% ospec army against a province that is exactly your size, in a kingdom exactly your size, and not in fort then you will convert 20% of your ospecs to leets.

If they are in fort you get no conversion or just less?

I'm pretty sure that as fort reduces overall gains, this reduction also applies to conversions.