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[sexual harassment panda]

He was a obnoxious little **** that kept harassing everyone and especially the big guy which resulted in bans, ban evades, more bans, more ban evades then permaban. I guess he gave Bishop a big donation to be let back in!

Musta been next level considering u still post :P

[Korp]

Musta been next level considering u still post :P

I know the golden rule irem, dont mess with the Bishop and grease his wheels. Im sending him a case of beer each month to keep him satisified.

[sexual harassment panda]

You asked him for a concrete example and he gave u 2 dealbreak examples from Elit up front. What does PewPew and AMAs history got to do with Elit dealbreaking and hitting his allies?

If ASF is such a pot to everyones kettle, name one example when he dealbroke someone? And you played in an Absalom kd for some time so you know exactly how sh*tplayed every abs kd would get every age with multis and whats not, and how little alliance interference there would actually be despite there being more then enough reason for it.

[vir]

You asked him for a concrete example and he gave u 2 dealbreak examples from Elit up front. What does PewPew and AMAs history got to do with Elit dealbreaking and hitting his allies?

If ASF is such a pot to everyones kettle, name one example when he dealbroke someone? And you played in an Absalom kd for some time so you know exactly how sh*tplayed every abs kd would get every age with multis and whats not, and how little alliance interference there would actually be despite there being more then enough reason for it.

Not to add to the drama but we had a deal go wrong with asf 4-5 ages ago with the nr1 province thing, nothing major but still in the eyes of everyone other then emertiti it was a dealbreak. Also last age hesus got waved by emertiti when they already had a cf because emertiti forgot which location was hesus kd or something along those lines? Thats just what happened to me and mah homie so i would assume its not the two only occasions ever. Pretty minor things compared to what happened now though, but still. Trying to claim that on person is perfect when all other are flawed seems silly, dont think anyone that played long enough havent been in some type of shady situation once or twice.

[pierniczek]

dont think anyone that played long enough havent been in some type of shady situation once or twice.

Even you? ;)

[Elit]

Elit, you have a history of doing whatever is necessary to avoid losing a 1v1 fight. You've shown on multiple occasions that you will deal break, dodge, or do anything necessary including trying to make yourself a martyr to avoid losing 1v1. If Havok had no chance against you, why didn't you just war them? Sanc was trying to cf you before any real damage was done but you refused and instead insisted you would stay hostile with them all age or until Havok gave you a long cf. I said all along that Sanc shouldn't have robbed your province on 0 thieves, but Sanc was already convinced that you were going to wave them either way to dodge Havok so they felt it in their best interest to rob your guy on 0 thieves before he trained to wave them. The damage was minimal, sanc wanted to cf without even hitting you, and you could have warred Havok just fine if you actually thought you would beat them.

There is no reason to make this thread about this past bs that has nothing to do with the current situation. There was no reason for you to try and slander me out of the blue with spear lies when I have always kept my deals and it is you with the reputation of breaking them. Try focusing on the topic at hand instead of baseless attacks on me when I'm not even playing and not involved in the thread or the topic of discussion.

After our war with sanctuary Jdorje disappear from irc. I was looking for him for 4 days to offer them EOA CF but he never come. No one from Sanctuary contacted me and asked for any kind deal. Right after our post war end Sanctuary had over 20 provinces online robing from us. No one bothered to PM me and ask any deal before they start robs. We was in clear non war build gathering gold and preparing for war Havoc. So all Sanc needed for get CF is to ask for it. Our surveys showed clear we don't have intention for b2b them. BUT what they did was doing max DMG to us for prevent us prepare for our war with Havoc. This is ABS moral for compete. They never stick to fair 1vs1 and its why most from time ABS was in top. Result from well coordinated dirty play not because you had really strong kingdoms. Waving Sanctuary back after they start aggressive act against us was only logical move. Right after it Sanctuary used all his runes generated for 4 days post war for massive FG/FB our Kd left us with no gold and no peasants and after this they start max retal all hits. After all dmg Havoc come notice us. Do you think its make any sense for us to war them with no extend CF for regenerate peasants and gold burned from Sanctuary. Both kds keep trade hits for 48h and after it Havoc to wave us.

I know you don't like to admit truth but Havoc had zero chances in war against us and its not just because AMA are better KD but because we had huge objective advantage, cows and better core. After war with Sanctuary beat them was like walk in park. We had no reason to avoid them at all when its secure our n1 and 100% age win. For this reason ABS decide to start all BS Robbing us and deal break after it.

About me running for loss 1vs1 is pure joke. I don't have problem to loss war and its alone don't mean you have lost. I have wars against Sanc (other wars too) where they get WW and we get all land. So its pure nonsense. Win war depend from many factors and no one can win every time. I know it well and don't have any problem losing war when i war from disadvantage. For example we wared Havoc after all dmg done from Sanctuary and we did WD but made perfect war keep land equal still. So im last person you can accuse for run from wars.

About topic i comment it too its only you stick to past...

[Elit]

The CR one was already mentioned. As a second concrete example, I will point to Elit's last age with AMA. Pew Pew had been waiting to notice them, but AMA picked a fight with EJ before Pew Pew could wave. After AMA beat EJ, Pew Pew told Elit that they would notice him after his post war. Elit then waved EJ again and said he would refuse to cf them until end of age to continue dodging Pew Pew unless Pew Pew would cf them. After quite some time of this and EJ stopping fighting back while Pew Pew sat fully trained waiting, Pew Pew noticed AMA and then gave AMA an extension to prepare.

AMA demanded their allies protect them from Pew Pew and when it was clear that Elit would have to fight Pew Pew 1v1 anyway, he instead deal broke Pyro who was preparing to fight BB for the crown. This is just another example of how Elit will dodge, deal break, and cause drama when faced with a losing fight. It's a consistent trend with Elit lead kingdoms.

You ask why im pick on you...its not because Jdorje and Havoc deal break but its because last age AMA. Its was only me told you its dont make sense to give your KD EOA cf if you don't agree to not grow because past few ages every time when we gave some one free pass he abused it. I was proved to be right because in they end your Kd ABUSE his free pass from all rest Kds and you finish in TOP 3. Its was unfair to all rest KDs competing serious all age. But why im talk about it...Because i was well aware how you behind scenes coordinate Jerks and Pew Pew to pull same BS what did Sanctuary and Havoc. Its was COMPLETE SAME ACTION. So right after you back to game you start run same dirty trick you used in ABS all your life.

Sure i demanded my ally to help me. What is more logical when 2 KDs coordinate his actions against us to get help?

And lets make you clear again. We didunt deal break CR or Pyro first. Against CR i already explained and Pyro deal broke us few ages back for join GB on us for personal gains. Deal break alone is not main problem but break my trust is main sin from CJ and he know it well. Its why he never blamed me for us punish Pyro. All outsiders who don't know what relations we had both cant comment it. Still i have very good relations with CR and CJ.

[jwuzi]

Elit wouldn't teach me chess so I could beat my 6yr old cousin.

I'm not happy

[StratOcastle]

Elit wouldn't teach me chess so I could beat my 6yr old cousin.

I'm not happy

You still have wrestling.

[Palem]

Elit wouldn't teach me chess so I could beat my 6yr old cousin.

I'm not happy

Rule #1. They are not called Horses

[glaurick]

All this QQ over a fight in a fighting game, you want to go 50% guilds, you risk the consequences. Deals to me are nothing more than a pecker swinging contest. 2 is always going to want 1's spot. Making deals long term is a p-word move anyway. If it's not a planned 2v1 scenario and ranges are fair then no harm, no foul.

[CannaWhoopazz]

Rule #1. They are not called Horses

Horsies*

[sexual harassment panda]

I know the golden rule irem, dont mess with the Bishop and grease his wheels. Im sending him a case of beer each month to keep him satisified.

Of course. As they say, a beer a day keeps the banhammer away.

All this QQ over a fight in a fighting game, you want to go 50% guilds, you risk the consequences. Deals to me are nothing more than a pecker swinging contest. 2 is always going to want 1's spot. Making deals long term is a p-word move anyway. If it's not a planned 2v1 scenario and ranges are fair then no harm, no foul.

Or jesters can just not agree to the deal if they don't plan on honoring it. They would have had the fight they wanted earlier in the age without having long term consequences.

[AquaSeaFoam]

Not to add to the drama but we had a deal go wrong with asf 4-5 ages ago with the nr1 province thing, nothing major but still in the eyes of everyone other then emertiti it was a dealbreak. Also last age hesus got waved by emertiti when they already had a cf because emertiti forgot which location was hesus kd or something along those lines? Thats just what happened to me and mah homie so i would assume its not the two only occasions ever. Pretty minor things compared to what happened now though, but still. Trying to claim that on person is perfect when all other are flawed seems silly, dont think anyone that played long enough havent been in some type of shady situation once or twice.

Vir, I have those logs and you are welcome to them. Jdorje flat out refused to agree to any deal that gave you any uncontested prov crown. He refused several times and said that there was no point in talking further about a deal if that was what you wanted out of it and talks stopped. Emeriti prepared to wave and both sides trained up. In the end, Anri came back when he saw how mismatched the fight was and agreed to jdorje's terms with no mention again of any uncontested prov crown. Let me know if you want all logs and I can dig them up.

[Panthira]

Not everyone cares about winning ages and winning 1 v 1 wars, that's not why I made alliances.

Yeah, I like this.