Spartans Vs Nonpandas

[StratOcastle]

I feel awful for 42's core Strat0. I always blame the Leadership :D

Damn you Flash!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5HfDIwNI8w

[Loons]

Oh? I was approached by any of you with diplo? News to me! The only correspondence I've really had with your KD were your insults on these forums. I hope that in the future I can be worthy of your diplomacy.

Also, why do you think anyone would give you 3 extra to pump on 20-25% more land :D ?

I was fine giving you several weeks extension in exchange for 15K land. Now you lost 22K and 1.5 weeks of pump-time.

LOL Bart ..... so all the other top kingdoms gave us the CF extension to allow us time to chill a bit. And you are sitting here saying you werent approached by our LS for an extension? I would think that by this time, you would know that everyone talks to eachother, so ur BS is exactly what it is BS.

You flatout refused to give us an extension without us giving u land. ALL the rest of the top gave it to us for free. Yet your not going for crown right??

[MyNameIsMatija]

What is this? You are the 2nd person referencing Flash Gordon in Utopia today. I haven't heard about that movie ever since I've watched it before that.

[octobrev]

Hmmm I don't recall receiving an extension while Simians was killing my honor prov(s). Have they ever done anything to deserve such preferential treatment?

I went back into the charts today to count how many crowns were won due to Simians/Pandas farm-outs and literally ran out of fingers. Why do you guys even grow knowing what happens to you every single time? Are you content with your level of success in this game?

[Bart of Sparta]

LOL Bart ..... so all the other top kingdoms gave us the CF extension to allow us time to chill a bit. And you are sitting here saying you werent approached by our LS for an extension? I would think that by this time, you would know that everyone talks to eachother, so ur BS is exactly what it is BS.

You flatout refused to give us an extension without us giving u land. ALL the rest of the top gave it to us for free. Yet your not going for crown right??

You just got a free extension from me, be grateful! Your KD has made it a sport to annoy me with your lame diplo always everyone referring me to someone else who supposedly holds authority, which is then put in doubt by others and in the end the guy that does hold authority can barely ever be reached. Even now Hesus wasn't even prepared to meet me for 5 mins on IRC to conclude the diplo. You cannot expect to **** on us 2 ages in a row and then expect a free crown. Octo is also among us, and he didn't forget you razekilled his high honor prov 3 ages ago for no particular reason.

[Band of Horses]

meh ... few things ...

theres no such things as vulture, if ur in position to get screwed oow, than gg for other kd for having better setup cf's. And pox on your house for puting yourself in position to be farmed oow. You deserve nothing less.

cut the crap about glorious 6 days prep, thats bs. Anybody with two braincells to rub together understands humongous disadvantage 42 was at.

Last but not least ... sparta cheated. Period.
You are worthless scrubs who consistently cheat. Anything you achieved or achieve in the future is worthless and tainted.

Let me get this straight... The kingdom that has CFs in place and gets their CF deal broken is responsible for the timing of the deal break? Because you're saying they should have timed the first war better so that it didnt end with ability to be noticed. That is some asinine logic you have there mate.

[StratOcastle]

I think citadela01 might've just had a brainfart. Looks like he's mashed two thoughts into one by human accident.

I think I get what he meant so he doesn't have to correct.

I'm sure he'll clarify when he's got the time.

[Anri]

Octobrev i know you are happy to see me but you are obsessing way to much over Simians.
If this is a mancrush i am not interested

[Anri]

Octo is also among us, and he didn't forget you razekilled his high honor prov 3 ages ago for no particular reason.

I seen you talk about this many times now as some kind of reason to jump Pandas.
Fact is Octobrevs KD attacked Pandas from what i know, straight into a war. Maybe if he wants to keep highest honor prov on server his KD should not hit into wars and steal Pandas into prep before that war. Its not like Pandas acted out of ill will towards Octo. His KD started it and Pandas ended it. I was not playing at the time but from what i can recall this was the case.

[Persain]

It is sad to see so much hatred against sparta, ...... I have no idea what kind of things he did in the past, because this is my first age in sparta. .... In ... sparta lives a general disbelieve that any of our LS had anything to do with Jesters dealbreak.

If its your first age there then congrats you joined a kd without learning its history. If you learned its history you'd know that your leadership probubly had something to do with the dealbreak. I know i've seen their agreed upon war targets get "randomed" just prior to wars, and thats not even adressing the history being assholes against established kds.

Even now revisionist history like

Get your facts straight.

"DB" vs Div was 3 ages ago and technically that wasnt even a DB.

would make we wave into your next war prep/war if i weren't in an established kd and would be accused of helping friends in either bb or emeriti to cheat and win. (your kd got gb'ed, and had all its "allies" and friends turn against it becuase of how obvious just that 1 thing was)


The last kd that did as much stuff "wrong" was strippers/debauchery. And they disbanded instead of recruiting "more" people to help cheat. It boils down to

We play fair and everyone in our kingdom puts in a big effort to be able to even compete with the established order.

Some people in your kd are playing fairly but your kidding yourself if this this conflict was 100% on even footings. Congrats on the win though, it was well played its just sad to see it go so 1 sided because of previous issues.

[Bart of Sparta]

If its your first age there then congrats you joined a kd without learning its history. If you learned its history you'd know that your leadership probubly had something to do with the dealbreak. I know i've seen their agreed upon war targets get "randomed" just prior to wars, and thats not even adressing the history being assholes against established kds.

Even now revisionist history like

would make we wave into your next war prep/war if i weren't in an established kd and would be accused of helping friends in either bb or emeriti to cheat and win. (your kd got gb'ed, and had all its "allies" and friends turn against it becuase of how obvious just that 1 thing was)


The last kd that did as much stuff "wrong" was strippers/debauchery. And they disbanded instead of recruiting "more" people to help cheat. It boils down to

Some people in your kd are playing fairly but your kidding yourself if this this conflict was 100% on even footings. Congrats on the win though, it was well played its just sad to see it go so 1 sided because of previous issues.

I said "technically". Doesn't mean I think it was a dickmove (it was) and that I do not agree with my actions back then (I don't) or that the community does see it as a DB (I understand that now).

Secondly, "probably" is nonsense. Get proof or be silent.

Thirdly. Every KD gets randoms. I'm good terms with nearly all KDs on the server. I think you mean "top-KDs" not "established KDs". There are tons of established KDs (old KDs) with which we are on very good terms :)

[Aranfein]

Didn't you deal break FS? and arrange a gb on fluffy with 3 others end of last age because you felt a player had insulted you being calling you a dick on whatsapp? - Just asking.

Congrat on the war win none the less, doesn't sound as close as the earlier posts in this thread suggested it would be.

I like you Bart <3 but you're as dirty as can be, when it suits your needs ;)

[Castille]

WELL, I guess nonpandas lost because THIS time they could not justify calling in 5 other kingdoms to help them win a war like they did to jesters.

No crown for nonpandas, mission ACCOMPLISHED.

[JusticeLeague]

Bart claimed he is friendly with many kingdoms.
Why not let us update the list (updated some based on their old post about bart)?
***Criteria***
Use Utopiaforum nick for identifying purposes
AND
Only 1 person from 1 kingdom
AND
you cannot add yourself if you are playing in Spartans

Friends
1. Jester LS
2.
3.

Foes
1. Arafanein
2. PErsian
3. Justiceleague
4. Citadel01
5.
6.

[Lestat]

Just not prepared enough with moral being down and to few people taking responsibility for the KD. I see a few that tried hard but even more that did not try at all and pretty much gave up in hostile.
I expected a much better fight from us and it feels kinda ****ty to perform this badly even under the circumstances. Not a proud moment.

I support you in your moment of vulnerability and humbleness.