A request to the Admins. Protect interests of larger KDs.

[Goodwitch]

arrogance = ignorance , in a lot of cases anyway.

so say he would have given that kingdom land and CFed...how would that have helped with the province that defected several times to hit them?

bad diplo is not always the answer.

[octobrev]

"Early in life I had to choose between honest arrogance and hypocritical humility. I chose the former and have seen no reason to change." -Frank L. Wright

[Lestat]

A rare gem!

[javierNelson]

We don't get involved in political stuff, which this falls under.

I have it on good authority bishop and korp used to play in the kingdom in question

[Pillz]

I have it on good authority bishop and korp used to play in the kingdom in question

Bishop and Korp have played in the same KD for... at least 3 years now. And its the only KD they've ever played in together. And the KD discussed in this thread is not theirs.

[javierNelson]

Bishop and Korp have played in the same KD for... at least 3 years now. And its the only KD they've ever played in together. And the KD discussed in this thread is not theirs.

I have it on good authority this guy played there too

[octobrev]

I assumed it was them at first too! I'm in their channel though and can assure everyone that these are not the droids you are looking for.

[Palem]

oh he is also an attacking faery.

Before anyone asks, no, it's not me lol

[Madchess]

Let me tell you a story about arrogance, some years ago, I think it was arround 2011 or 2012 someone started a new top kingdom, mainly by importing high profile players from a lot of other kingdoms if I understood it correctly, that kingdom was named Insomia, and as far as I'm aware it bellyflopped so bad it did not exist after a few ages (atleast not under that name).

My new kingdom was lead by a crazy queen that encuraged us to retal and hit Insomia hard when they started their farm game after end of protection thinking they would not engage as their goal was competition for the top, turns out they did engage after beeing poked, and declared war a few tics before dubbeling our size, we was at 55-60% of their nw or something (declare range was implemented the next age). The arrogant thing that happened is the first thing they posted in the warforum was the following question "do you yield" and I sure think it was posted by their king. This was repeated over and over with the war not even having reached min time, we of course did not want to stop hitting them as that would be fw'ing, and why should we give up resistance to let them farm us onesided in active war? We ended up having to conquest them one by one, they was so desperate for us to let them out of war as they could random for more OOW that they ended up surrendering after 55 hours or so since we was in no hurry to do the same.

Later from what I found (was in vm the entire war) we tried the same with Mele weapons and got decimated as they did spend 1-2 weeks destroying us (nw win was also implemented the next age I think).

The morale of the story don't talk down to others about arrogance it exist in top kingdoms even more so than in the lower tier, and if someone poke you with a stick either ignore, diplo out of it or spend the time nesesary to deal with it, if you don't want to change your goals don't engage, if you are flexible enougth with your goals so they can be swiched then the kingdom that poke at you won't come out on top.

[Korp]

I have it on good authority bishop and korp used to play in the kingdom in question

Used to play so its javiers Kingdom?

[Sheister]

Personally, I am rediscovering the joy of this game right now because of a very similar situation. Some nub made a dumb hit on me, I instructed them to get their monarch to CF me with terms because they are dumb. They wrote around 10 paragraph long messages to me, my monarch, etc etc. about how I was not big enough to carry out any threats and I should just STFU. I wrote back "LOL. I am an avian warrior dude...." They still did not get it and razed me several times then went on their way to pump for war. I waited for my fun fun joy joy time and got a few mason jars for the tears I would collect. They entered war. I waited for their opponants wave +6 ticks of troop desertions and then BOOM! 75 acres razed per wave. So deliciously salty tears.. They RK'd me. I respawned someplace else, waited for the proper moment and BOOM! This is simply the most fun I have had in utopia in about 8 ages. The best part is, all the newer players in my kingdom are learning and getting better as a result of their asking me the hows and whys of what I am doing. I consider this a public service as well as a pleasure.

[ape]

Someone just got added to the sheitlist.

[MyNameIsMatija]

[StratOcastle]

Before anyone asks, no, it's not me lol

I'll admit I thought of you guys first, but I smiled when I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpYEJx7PkWE

[Osaze]

Personally, I am rediscovering the joy of this game right now because of a very similar situation. Some nub made a dumb hit on me, I instructed them to get their monarch to CF me with terms because they are dumb. They wrote around 10 paragraph long messages to me, my monarch, etc etc. about how I was not big enough to carry out any threats and I should just STFU. I wrote back "LOL. I am an avian warrior dude...." They still did not get it and razed me several times then went on their way to pump for war. I waited for my fun fun joy joy time and got a few mason jars for the tears I would collect. They entered war. I waited for their opponants wave +6 ticks of troop desertions and then BOOM! 75 acres razed per wave. So deliciously salty tears.. They RK'd me. I respawned someplace else, waited for the proper moment and BOOM! This is simply the most fun I have had in utopia in about 8 ages. The best part is, all the newer players in my kingdom are learning and getting better as a result of their asking me the hows and whys of what I am doing. I consider this a public service as well as a pleasure.

I am recruiting for next age to do this exact same thing to all top kingdoms. Let me know if you want to continue the fun.