#1 vs#2 honor kds

[Loons]

You might feel the same way, but that's not really how it works. Reality is that if I'd op for "fair" 1v1 conflicts against those KDs I will still suffer from their veiled ****play and lose. Pandas is a prime example, losing many ages simply because they maintained way too high standards and refused to buy land etc.

It's very well saying you're going to play 100% fair and do everything on your own, but if you do so you should simultaneously accept you're never gonna win anything or even compete.

LOL, epic really .... so Bart admits hes not smart enough to even remotely try to win a game, a GAME mind you, without cheating. I honestly wonder what peeps gets out of winning or succeeding in something when its not a result of their own achievements.

[LoRD_SaMPuaN]

11) CR has FS(11mil more NW than TBB) wave TBB while they are in fort.

i dont care about your wild imagination in the rest of your post but at least do not pretend to be presenting facts or anything..

FS - 30.5m nw
TBB - 26.5m nw
CR - 23m nw

[jacko]

The kingdom that got actioned by bishop for using multis to farm war ghettos is whining about "rule breaking"

damn son, thats just rich

This guy gets it ! The level of hypocrisy and cynicism of TBB people is spiraling out of control ... Albeit, their opponents are not saints themselves, but you don't see'em QQ so much in here, like little b*tches ...

[Loons]

Its good to hear your RL persona is different from uto one, patronizing aspect aside, that is a good thing.

You give yourself too much credit, as far as player base goes you do far more damage than good imo.

There is no alliance, other than the one you are working so hard on making with Sanctus and satelites. If you can manage to convince people about existence of this new, ugly entity in which known enemies work side by side, than props to you.

You are not looking for a fair shot and even playing field. You are looking for an unfair advantage like so many before you.
I see you as product of your enviroment, you were introduced to the game of cheating and abusing by people who looked to profit on you. You simply spiraled out of control with it.

I understand this may seem as something new and revolutionary to you, but its really not. Its just rehashed case of many people who went down the same pattern of behavior before you, some with remarkable success.

In reality the only thing that makes you pop out from previous "barts" is your desire for spotlight and presence in forums.
Catch22 is that same exposure brings unwanted attention, if you played silent game you could get away with much more, and make much fewer enemies along the way.

In the end I am just sorry you manage to drag other people to your level, like you did with tbb and jesters this age.
Its getting harder for the rest of us to just play normal utopia.

Good evening to you too.

edit:
Ill make a wild guess here.
It intrigues me how you silently introduced MAP phrase as some entity existing in the game, and than expanded it to a phrase MAP Alliance in your last post. What is your motivation for this I wonder ?

I am going to speculate there are talks going on behind curtain about creating alliance of Sparta/Sanctus and some third party kingdoms. Under a premise of needing a leverage to "defend" against this suposed entity.
Just food for thought for random reader.

+ 1

[s7ark]

Ive been a part of ~30 wars the past 3 or 4 ages...

You average 7.5-10 wars an age?

10) Attacks are made by both sides.
11) CR has FS(11mil more NW than TBB) wave TBB while they are in fort.

Now before you ask why we waved them after the second war, read how the MAP brags about how we "took the bait".

10) TBB plundered CR twice. No hits from CR before FS gave relations.
11) was more like 4-5m iirc

who are these MAP you speak of? is there a list so we'll know who not to engage in the future? can you quote the brag so we can clarify with the author?

[Proteus]

[QUOTE=Uncle Ed;15402287] I remember when I was Monarch in a ghetto kingdom, I used to love to read the top tier threads to get tips and strategies from the best players in the game. I know their are probably a few people from ghetto kingdoms reading this now and wondering what the heck is going on. I will break it down for you.


7) CR has Emeriti hit TBB for 5k acres right out of protection. [\QUOTE]

Wrong here. CR didn't get Emeriti to do anything here. Emeriti's cf with TBB had long since been expired since Y5. TBB reached out for diplomacy after their 2nd war with CR ended and we agreed to cf in exchange for some land (which is consistent with how we have treated every other kd on the server). TBB was not willing to offer land at this time so we hit them after they exited EOWCF. At the time we hit TBB they were not in any kind of hostile or conflict. Their hostile / war with TBB had ended once CR withdrew and EOWCF ended that active conflict. Both kds exited eowcf early and could not interact with each other FOR ANOTHER 6 HOURS at the time we hit TBB and were perfectly within our rights to do so. Just because a kingdom has other plans / goals does not make them immune from being attacked if they are not in an active conflict.

[Bart of Sparta]

[QUOTE=Proteus;15402300]

I remember when I was Monarch in a ghetto kingdom, I used to love to read the top tier threads to get tips and strategies from the best players in the game. I know their are probably a few people from ghetto kingdoms reading this now and wondering what the heck is going on. I will break it down for you.


7) CR has Emeriti hit TBB for 5k acres right out of protection. [\QUOTE]

Wrong here. CR didn't get Emeriti to do anything here. Emeriti's cf with TBB had long since been expired since Y5. TBB reached out for diplomacy after their 2nd war with CR ended and we agreed to cf in exchange for some land (which is consistent with how we have treated every other kd on the server). TBB was not willing to offer land at this time so we hit them after they exited EOWCF. At the time we hit TBB they were not in any kind of hostile or conflict. Their hostile / war with TBB had ended once CR withdrew and EOWCF ended that active conflict. Both kds exited eowcf early and could not interact with each other FOR ANOTHER 6 HOURS at the time we hit TBB and were perfectly within our rights to do so. Just because a kingdom has other plans / goals does not make them immune from being attacked if they are not in an active conflict.

Still you signed official terms with Sparta to be honorable in your dealings with TBB, not taking any land of them unless you needed it to crown: "I dont see why we'd have to wave/tax them. we dont need land and it'd just sour relations for the next age" or something along those lines.

We kept our end of the bargain and extended freely with BB, even now offering them a sweet deal for EOA. Im not saying it's a DB (it is not as "honorable" means something different for different peepz) but it does point strongly toward there being a concerted effort.

[HerpNDerp]

You average 7.5-10 wars an age?

Yes. And we have won every single one of them (except for maybe one 3 or 4 ages ago..)

I saw someone claiming that TBB are cheaters and multi-accounters. Is there proof of that? I thought that was a bygone time back in the day of the Genesis servers when there were 50k+ accounts here. I mean, calling someone a cheater is pretty big talk. I highly doubt you have any proof of that whatsoever. I would love to see the explanation as to how a kingdom would be able to seed multi accounts into specific kingdoms for specific purposes. That just doesn't make sense, logically speaking, on any level.

@ Octobrev -- we already discussed the fact that kingdoms make gc-for-land deals all the time. That's what TBB and Sparta did for that gold. I've seen values ranging from 50mil to 500mil in this thread alone. I have no clue how much was taken (it appears ~300mil?). The gold really has no effect on this conflict, except for all of the CR homers who are insisting that TBB was playing outside the fair rules of the game (which we already established they weren't). CR didn't need to go after TBB after they won the first war, they chose to and then they lost.

I'm still at a loss to see how any of this warrants TBB getting farmed out by FS, other than FS and CR working together. At this point, it is blatant collusion and entirely disrespectful to everyone else who plays this game to call it anything other than that. A bunch of butthurt grown men used to winning, they get rekt, then get their friends to gang up on the newcomer.

[Bart of Sparta]

twas 200M

[HerpNDerp]

twas 200M

Straight from the source. Finally, some clarity. It's amusing how hyperbolic some people get when their feelings get hurt ^_^

[Nightmare_]

Can someone give an objective tl;dr for this?

[jacko]

"I saw someone claiming that TBB are cheaters and multi-accounters. Is there proof of that? I thought that was a bygone time back in the day of the Genesis servers when there were 50k+ accounts here. I mean, calling someone a cheater is pretty big talk. I highly doubt you have any proof of that whatsoever. I would love to see the explanation as to how a kingdom would be able to seed multi accounts into specific kingdoms for specific purposes. That just doesn't make sense, logically speaking, on any level."


@HerpNDerp :
You saw Bishop taking action against TBB and you say he did that based on no proofs ? 'Cause that would pretty much mean he's a cheat, then. In other words, are you calling him a cheat ? Y or N.

I asked the same basic question to some n00b earlier, he dodged 100% the answer. Why ? Simple. If Bishop in NOT a cheat, then TBB are. There is no other way. So, be kind and answer. Was Bishop a cheat or not, punishing TBB by erasing ww obtained by using multi's ?

PS : You need proofs and explanations of why Bishop punished them ? PM him, persuade him to show you the proofs and make him explain to you. Then come back here and enlighten us all, pls.

[sarcasm]

So many new players commenting on this topic. Are they actually new players or just the same guy making new accounts. Because we all know tbb can only win arguments and wars using multis. Lol

lol, if I could plant multis in any kd i want to sabotage any time i want from within just to win a war, that would be very awesome actually. however reality isn't something you just simply pick at the back of your brain.

there's no to arguments to be won here, all that replies here are mostly from 3-4 KD who knows what really happens in the game playing lawyers, politician, historian and archeologist that can amazingly dig up stories from 3 ages ago but failed miserably at it.

I'm just here to see how far are the fabricated lies straying away from the the actual event to have a good laugh, some of you are really good entertainers and i give you praise where its due, well there are some who are rather disappointing. I would expect some of you would be good at it if you spend so much time in this forum and with hundreds and thousands of posts.

[sarcasm]

Can someone give an objective tl;dr for this?

3-4 KD who knows what really happens in the game playing lawyers, politician, historian and archeologist in a forum people don't care unless they are directly involved.

[Nightmare_]

3-4 KD who knows what really happens in the game playing lawyers, politician, historian and archeologist in a forum people don't care unless they are directly involved.

What old bones from the past have they dug up this time