No, you wouldn't.
Again, just because the NRA and Fox news shove something down your throat, that doesn't mean there's a hint of truth to it.
If Clinton had won the presidency, there would still be a Republican House and Senate. Ignoring the fact that a supreme Court Justice is unlikely to blatantly ignore the bill of rights, a nominee that would be in favor of a national ban on guns wouldn't get approved in the first place.
Are you trolling again..?Originally Posted by handofthrawn
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'Then he must get beard' - Mitch at 6:52am, 5.4.16, in response to 'he said "One day when I grow up I want to be like Mitch"' gg
Well I never stop trolling and yes Democrats dream is to take away all guns. I suggest you do your research on the Democrat party stance on guns.
'Then he must get beard' - Mitch at 6:52am, 5.4.16, in response to 'he said "One day when I grow up I want to be like Mitch"' gg
@handofthrawn: all your guns are belonging to us.
Give me your guns or I will shoot you! Guns don't kill ppl bullets do. You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers. Come and take it [oops they took it]. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed [militia?]. Happiness is a warm gun. Outrun my gun. Young guns. Guns of my father. To conquer a nation first disarm its citizens [adolf hitler]. More guns = less crime [alex jones]. I have a gun in my mouth because I like the taste of metal [robt downey jr]. I'm all for TOTAL GUN CONTROL and trusting our government to protect us [Native American Indians]. You get much further with a kind word and a gun than with only a kind word [al capone]. Gun control, if there is a gun around I want to control it. If you think criminals will obey stricter gun laws then you are a special kind of stupid. Every woman should know how to handle guns as easy as they know how to handle babies [annie oakley]. I swear I don't has a gun, no I don't has a gun [curt cobain]. When its a crime to own a gun, only criminals will has guns. I am for War on Drugs, you could not get me to go to war unless I am on drugs. 40 acres and a gun. I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery [thomas jefferson]. The first rule of gun fighting is have a gun. That rifle on the wall of the working class home is the symbol of democracy, it is our job to see that it stays there [george orwell]. My biggest fear is I will die, and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them. Live, love, laff, and load, aim fire. Sniper: if you hear the shot, you weren't the target. Fair as a saint, cold as ice, hurt me once, I'll shoot you twice. Whatever does not kill you should start running [posted at a gun range]. We don't blame cars for drunk drivers so why blame guns for dangerous crazy people. You can tell a lot about a woman's mood just by her hands, if she's holding a gun, she may be angry. One man with a gun can control 100 without one [vladimir lenin]. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun [mao zedong]. It ain't gun control we need, it's sin control [si robertson]. Military dictatorship is born from the power of the gun, and so it undermines the concept of the rule of law and gives birth to a culture of might, a culture of weapons, violence and intolerance [benazir bhutto]. You must get an education, you must go to school, and you must learn to protect yourself and you must learn to protect yourself with the pen, and not the gun [josephine baker]. This is the sheriff you're talking about, with a gun and badge that enforces the law, nothing is going to stop me from cracking down on illegal immigration as long as the laws are there [joe arpaio]. Fixing a broken immigration system, protecting our kids from gun violence, equal pay for equal work, paid leave, raising the minimum wage, affordable health care, all these things still matter to hardworking families, they are still the right thing to do, and I will not let up until they get done [barack obama].
xtra cool...
During November's full "supermoon," the moon came closer to Earth than it has been since 1948. The moon was at it's biggest and brightest on Monday morning the closest since Jan. 26, 1948...
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What?
'Then he must get beard' - Mitch at 6:52am, 5.4.16, in response to 'he said "One day when I grow up I want to be like Mitch"' gg
I'm wth Johnny on this one...WHA?
America is what's referred to as a 'Federal' state. State governments are empowered to deal with regional concerns; the Federal government is empowered to deal with issues of national interest. There are vastly different political cultures from place to place, but the actual *interests* of people, so far as the Federal government goes, don't vary so much around the country. It's not like Alaskans are sitting up there protesting because they want higher inflation and negative economic growth.
Besides, Ohio has its own 11+ million people to speak for it. California is a larger voting block, but even if they all voted the same way (hint: they don't), that wouldn't be enough to control the election.
Moreover, if state-wide margins mattered, then 'stronghold' would lose its meaning. As it stands, Republicans don't even try to win CA or New York, and Democrats don't try to win votes in the bible belt - and this cements the polarization of America, because it totally undermines the notion of governing 'for all Americans' when you regard entire states as 'the other party's' constituency, and we've seen a lot of divisive rhetoric in recent years in particular to exacerbate the rural/urban divide.
I thought trolls liked eating real human flesh, not straw men...
I think the point I was trying to make was that the electoral college is weighted to reflect the individual state populations which is fair, otherwise we could do 1 electoral vote per state, then the popular votes going towards those specific electoral votes carry a weight by extension depending on the population they're representing and number of voters that showed up. SO in essence people are pooling popular votes with different weights together, if that makes sense.
There are national interests that affect specific states, so it's easy to say we the people if you're not in the region being affected, like the keystone pipeline. Obama has blocked legislation on that project from moving forward, but trump has stated he will push to get the keystone built. immigration is another point, may not see many mexicans or muzzies in Alaska, but the border states are significantly more impacted.
This would be true if all states did like Maine and split the elector votes according to the election result. But alas it is not. If all states did that the situation would be better but still silly, the way it is now with winner takes it all is absolutely retarded.
Aye that's true, not everything affects everybody the same.
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
System will never change first off. Plus nobody wants California having any more say in who is president then they have now. Hope fully when California goes bankrupt they will be forced to change policy's and not be bailed out.
Well even if the College of Electors is kept the states should be forced to distribute electors according to the election result, not Winner takes it all. Because that's the true abomination with the system.
If that was changed then even if the voting power disparity between the states would be kept and the votes required to win would change from a theoretical 22% of the population so something a lot closer to 51% even if not quite 51%, which is at least 1 step closer to becoming an actual democracy(and a republic is a subset of democracy, so no pulling that card).
And the mentality of "the system will never change" is just not working, that's the mentality that got the US where it's currently at. If enough people demand a change then there will be change.
If the part of the population in every state that voted for the party that won the election but not the popular vote(and this remains true even if/when the situation would flip) started rioting and forexample started burning public, state, federal buildings, and buildings of the controlling party(because the controlling party in a state is essentially a part of the government and therefore not sacrosanct) then there would eventually be change, even in the states whose influence is hurt by changing the system.
Note: Any would be rioters should definitely stay away from destroying private property, as that has nothing to do with the conflict.
To quote: "Soap box, Ballot box, Jury box, "Ammo box". Those are the 4 ways of changing congressional legislation"
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Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Funnest thing is Democrats complaining about Trumps cabinet. Why would Trump do or care about anything Democrats want? Like Obama said two weeks after he was elected. The people have spoken, now sit down and shut up. :) I so enjoy the tears. Fyi haha
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