-wSk- vs CR

[Meep]

Did WSK has a deal to farmout to Emeriti and thats why they so pissed about WSK deal with CR? :(

Binnie the Pooh doesn't make deals like that

[Maximo]

I do think it's worth noting, stupid deal aside, that I absolutely expect that had we withdrawn, WSk would be butthurt and demanding their 25-30% acres and accusing us of dealbreaking them.

For what its worth, and I'll admit, I am not always privy to some of the things going on in terms of negotiations, but this is the first I have ever heard of this 25-30% acre thing. Even when things were looking decent for us, when we started piling on some cow acres did anyone mention the possibility of another 25%.

Again, that is just from a random, login, do this, kind of guy.

[Meep]

For what its worth, and I'll admit, I am not always privy to some of the things going on in terms of negotiations, but this is the first I have ever heard of this 25-30% acre thing. Even when things were looking decent for us, when we started piling on some cow acres did anyone mention the possibility of another 25%.

Again, that is just from a random, login, do this, kind of guy.

I mean, your LS doesn't pretend the deal didn't exist, they just pretend that this first war wasn't actually a war, just a battle, and that the winner is still TBD to get those acres.

Of course, the deal is stupid, and if (when :p ) we win round 2 I don't plan on trying to collect them.

[Zauper]

zauper doesnt see the difference in us EoACFing BB for 0 acres and him/CR getting 40-50k for the same thing after their war with wsk. what a shock. lol.

you are shady. your kd is shady and you make shady deals around the clock.

?? As I understand CR has no deal with BB but you get any land CR takes from them, so they can't fight? Have I been told something wrong?

[Zauper]

BB wanted an eoa cf with all top kds after war, that was their decision - no one forced an eoa cf / non compete on them or even proposed one. That was something they are willing to do. If one of the top kds wars Bb and gains acres from them against their will in conflict, why would the other kds be entitled to get free acres without having fought for them? Should loser of CR / WSK give the rest of competitors acres for free too by your logic?

You do realize what you are saying. Taking free 25-30% acres for someone in war would be the definition of fake war and a reportable and actionable offense. I know you are ok with cheating and bug abuse (your abuse of aid / prov reset mechanics demonstrates this) so it doesn't surprise me that you are cool with farming in war.

To an honorable person, the only way to give free acres due to war loss would need to be given after war ends oow. Technically you do not "lose" the war until the other party withdraws so how can you possibly give acres in war when no one has lost???

I think it's really eating you up that CR is not crowning this age in spite of playing serious.

Re: BB, my understanding of deal is different. Why should you be able to prevent anyone else from noticing them and gaining land?

Re: the rest, you're wrong. I was referring to taking land post war, not in war. I'm not playing, so I get to just be amused by all the drama, but OK :)

[Binar]

you are creating the drama. and we never told anyone they couldnt gain acres from BB or anyone else for that matter.
get updated and/or stop lying.

[Zauper]

you are creating the drama. and we never told anyone they couldnt gain acres from BB or anyone else for that matter.
get updated and/or stop lying.

Why do you think CR has an EOA with BB?

[Binar]

i never said anything about any of your cf deals. ohh i now see proteus did. but he doesnt know :p

[Meep]

i never said anything about any of your cf deals. ohh i now see proteus did. but he doesnt know :p

Here I assumed ProPro was in charge of emeriti's diplo department due to his gregarious nature and would know the nature of all top diplo.

[Proteus]

I might be confusing the Bb deal terms. IMy role in kd is strategy and wars, not diplo so I might have misspoke.

Zauper the only way to collect extra land as you initially pointed out was in war which is against rules. To do it post war you'd both need to exit early or do on after 72h after which you get noticed immediately and get owned by us

[Crazy Pete]

All you Emereti guys go make your own thread :P This is now the WSK vs CR round #2 extension of the previous topic WSK vs CR. SO scared about acres and feeling owed things don't worry I don't think anybody cares in this ERA of Utopia about crowns etc.

Crowns from this era are a place to hang the pictures of the fat chick your friend banged at the party, not for any serious use or too be talked highly about anyways :P Take a chill pill man you guys have this in the bag! :D

[Zauper]

I might be confusing the Bb deal terms. IMy role in kd is strategy and wars, not diplo so I might have misspoke.

Zauper the only way to collect extra land as you initially pointed out was in war which is against rules. To do it post war you'd both need to exit early or do on after 72h after which you get noticed immediately and get owned by us

No, that's actually not what I said. I never said you'd collect it in war. I said if you look at the rate a fae can produce GC in a 72h eow you'd see that they could hit for 30% land on oow and still have the cash to train deep.

Also can't exit early to take it as eowcf is binding for 72h even if both kds exit, unless one wars another kd and enters a second eowcf in which case they can one way hit/op the other kd from the first eowcf, which is clearly bug abuse (but so niche it would probably never be fixed)

[Band of Horses]

Zaup just dropped a knowledge bomb on propro

[Proteus]

No, that's actually not what I said. I never said you'd collect it in war. I said if you look at the rate a fae can produce GC in a 72h eow you'd see that they could hit for 30% land on oow and still have the cash to train deep.

Also can't exit early to take it as eowcf is binding for 72h even if both kds exit, unless one wars another kd and enters a second eowcf in which case they can one way hit/op the other kd from the first eowcf, which is clearly bug abuse (but so niche it would probably never be fixed)

And there would still be a substantial military disadvantage where they land would not help and the outcome would be the same, no crown for CR. Also what's wrong with that, you guys like bug abuse and have used it historically.

I think giving someone extra acres after a conflict to help that kingdom compete vs someone else is farming / chart shaping. I would never make such a deal myself. I personally like to win my acres by fighting for it and owning my enemies rather than arranged farming. And ya I overlooked the binding lockout for 72h. To me it sounded like you would take it in war (you don't wave a kd for 30% their land OOW with gbp) and then pump in eow cf on it.

[Crazy Pete]

Is that all you got no crown for you Proteus? Is that like supposed to hurt our feelings? Did you miss the part about the fat chicks etc + crown /era?

Heck start a thread now about the almighty 3 peat and give yourself a pat on the back, but post in that thread from now on lol.

Heck here you /CP pats Proteus on the back... lol